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date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:28:46 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.politics.drugs        back       
Re: Latest scare: Cannabis alters human DNA   
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:27:40 +0100, Blah  wrote:

>Dr John Watson wrote:
>> Noticed at Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:12:10 +0100: Blah informed us:
>> 
>>> You miss the point - must be the thc clouding your judgement?
>> 
>> Ad-hominem. Well done.
>
>Nope, just an accurate observation that you manage to avoid or miss the 
>question:
>"Thats exactly the point - Chemo kills cells, thc kills cells. Would you
>take Chemo illegally, if it got you high?"
>
>> 
>>> Would you take a chemo course intended for a cancer sufferer if it got
>>> you high? You are suggesting it and thc have equal value..
>> 
>> It would depend on the side effects of the chemo.

>Killing off cells needlessly not good enough?

I thought you said you like booze? 

Booze is one of the best recreational cell killers around.

Obviously the odd cell going feet up is no objection to having a good
time for you.

Svenne
date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:39:05 GMT   author:   Svenne

Re: Latest scare: Cannabis alters human DNA   
On 28 jul, 07:14, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:
> In article  sobriquet  writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 28 jul, 00:24, Blah  wrote:
> >> Dr John Watson wrote:
> >> > Here's a large study that proves conclusively that cannabis doesn't cause
> >> > cancers (because THC kills tumours as they develop):
>
> >> >http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=large-study-finds-no...
>
> >> >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
> >> What about:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm
>
> >> Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years
> >> Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
>
> >>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070521145539.htm
>
> >> Marijuana worsens breathing problems in current smokers with chronic
> >> obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), according to a new study.
> >If you look for studies that confirm your assumptions that's not so
> >hard.
> >If you overlook all the studies and see which ones stand up to
> >scientific scrutiny, there is not much left to make a case for the
> >harmfulness of cannabis.
>
> >http://www.pdxnorml.org/Exposing_index_1095.html
>
> Tryhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090413180523.htm
>
>     Marijuana Smoking Increases Risk Of COPD For Tobacco Smokers
>
>     ScienceDaily (Apr. 18, 2009) - Smoking both tobacco and marijuana
>     increases the risk of respiratory symptoms and chronic obstructive
>     pulmonary disease (COPD), found a study in the _Canadian_Medical_
>     _Association_Journal_.  Smoking only marijuana, however, was not
>     associated with increased risks.
>
> Note the last sentence.  Although marijuana is bad for tobacco smokers, it
> doesn't seem to be bad for non-tobacco smokers.
>
> So don't smoke tobacco.
>
> I looked at the story about "Rapid Lung Destruction" and it looked suspect
> because there were no details about the study.  According to the abstract,
> this conclusion was based on 10 patients who already had respiratory symptoms
> and admitted to smoking marijuana.
>
> It's not a study, it's a faulty conclusion based on non-random data.
>
> The abstract can be found at:
>
> http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bsc/res/2008/00000013/00000001/...
>
> -Pete Zakel
>  (p...@seeheader.nospam)
>
> "Under any conditions, anywhere, whatever you are doing, there is some
>  ordinance under which you can be booked."
>                                                 -Robert D. Sprecht (Rand Corp)- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

Well, I'm glad anyway that I quit tobacco over 10 years go thanks to
cannabis (smoking cannabis as a substitute instead of tobacco).
Nicotine craving sure sucks.
date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:28:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   sobriquet

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