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date: 25 Jun 2009 09:35:57 -0800,
group: uk.politics.drugs
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Re: BBC - Call for swift 'party drug' ban
In article "Aidy" writes:
>Again you are missing the point. I'm not saying we have to eliminate all
>risk. I'm saying that risks should be known and communicated and *then*
>people can make choices. With blanket legislation permitting all things
>that process is not possible.
Your conclusion does not match your premise.
If you want all risks to be known and communicated and for people to have a
choice, you *have* to support legalization.
With prohibition you guarantee that risks are unknown, uncommunicated or lied
about, and that people's choice is "don't use" or "use the riskiest possible
option".
Since we know from experience many people will ignore "don't use", you are
promoting only the riskiest possible choices.
-Pete Zakel
(phz@seeheader.nospam)
"The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright --
And this was very odd, because it was
The middle of the night."
-Lewis Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass"
date: 25 Jun 2009 09:35:57 -0800
author: (Pete nospam Zakel)
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Re: BBC - Call for swift 'party drug' ban
"Pete nospam Zakel" wrote in message
news:4a43a76d$1@news.cadence.com...
> If you want all risks to be known and communicated and for people to have
> a
> choice, you *have* to support legalization.
Again you miss the point. You can't possibly legalise most recreational
drugs. They just wouldn't be allowed for general consumption. It's not an
option.
> With prohibition you guarantee that risks are unknown, uncommunicated or
> lied
> about, and that people's choice is "don't use" or "use the riskiest
> possible
> option".
Having no prohibition and allowing drugs to go straight to market is no
different. The risks will still be unknown.
date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:04:50 +0100
author: Aidy
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Re: BBC - Call for swift 'party drug' ban
"Aidy" wrote in message
news:0aGdnRFSBLvfId7XnZ2dnUVZ8gudnZ2d@bt.com...
> "Pete nospam Zakel" wrote in message
> news:4a43a76d$1@news.cadence.com...
>> If you want all risks to be known and communicated and for people to have
>> a
>> choice, you *have* to support legalization.
>
> Again you miss the point. You can't possibly legalise most recreational
> drugs. They just wouldn't be allowed for general consumption. It's not
> an option.
>
Why not? Many, if not most, are perfectly safe. Of course there are some
drugs for which this isn't an option such as crystal meth.
date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:16:04 +0100
author: Mr X
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Re: BBC - Call for swift 'party drug' ban
Mr X wrote:
> "Aidy" wrote in message
> news:0aGdnRFSBLvfId7XnZ2dnUVZ8gudnZ2d@bt.com...
>> "Pete nospam Zakel" wrote in message
>> news:4a43a76d$1@news.cadence.com...
>>> If you want all risks to be known and communicated and for people to have
>>> a
>>> choice, you *have* to support legalization.
>> Again you miss the point. You can't possibly legalise most recreational
>> drugs. They just wouldn't be allowed for general consumption. It's not
>> an option.
>>
> Why not? Many, if not most, are perfectly safe. Of course there are some
> drugs for which this isn't an option such as crystal meth.
>
>
And crystal meth is usually these day the product of illegal
labs not produced by ethical companies except for prescription use.
Dexedrine (dextro-amphetamine sulfate) is an oral drug which used
to be widely available on prescription. I used to use it when I
became sensitive to caffeine in the 1960s to help me stay alert on
night shifts,
Now-a-days you might get lucky and be able to get a prescription of
dexadrine but it will be hard to do. That is one
reason that IV drug abuse has replaced oral use.IMO
later
bliss
date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:33:58 -0700
author: B Sellers
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Re: BBC - Call for swift 'party drug' ban
"Mr X" wrote in message
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> Why not? Many, if not most, are perfectly safe.
How do you know? Where are the studies?
date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:52:02 +0100
author: Aidy
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