The fact sheet describes how, around the world, governments commit
flagrant and widespread human rights violations against people who use
drugs, often in the name of “treating” them for drug dependence [IDPC,
UK]

http://www.soros.org/initiatives/health/focus/ihrd/articles_publications/publications/treatmentabuse_20090318/treatmentabuse_20090309.pdf

4 page PDF.

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street

In article <xxOQl.158145$IC1.109895@newsfe06.ams2> "Norman Wells"  writes:
>Colonel Colt wrote:
>> "Paul Hyett" <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:GqSIwtch4YEKFww3@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> On Mon, 18 May 2009 at 16:32:25, Dr John Watson
>>>  wrote in uk.legal :

>>>> Employers are increasingly using drug testing to get rid of staff
>>>> without having to make redundancy payouts, as a way of ­cutting
>>>> costs during the recession, a ­charity has said.

>>> There is a very easy way of avoiding this though - NOT TAKING DRUGS!

>> What business is it of an employer what a member of staff does in his
>> off hours.

>Nothing at all.  It's what he's doing in work time that concerns them. 
>That's why they test in work time, and proceed on the basis of what drugs 
>and in what concentration are found in his body while that body is at work.

But that's part of the problem.  In many cases they aren't testing for the
drugs themselves, but for the metabolites.  And the metabolites can be there
long after there is any effect from the drug itself.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@seeheader.nospam)

"The IQ of the group is the lowest IQ of a member of the group divided
 by the number of people in the group."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/


Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
much pot

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    *

By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009

A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.

Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.

A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
this can lead to heart failure.

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Dullaghan was found by his friend Kieron Hayes. Mr Hayes said: "A few
friends have a poker night on a Tuesday night and he didn't show.

I went round on the Wednesday, broke in and found him in the bedroom. He
was a lovely guy, generous to a fault. He'd bend over backwards to help
anyone."

Coventry coroner Sean McGovern recorded a verdict of death due to misuse
of drugs.


-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street

Dr John Watson wrote:
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/
> 
> 
> Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
> much pot

Pmsl

"Dr John Watson"  wrote in message
news:77knfdFu8ql2U1@mid.individual.net...
>

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/

>
>
> Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
> much pot
>
>     *
>     *
>
> By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>
> A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>
> Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
> his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>
> A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
> but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
> Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
> toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
> this can lead to heart failure.

A fast heart rate and hyperventilation can lead to heart failure...

Not if you have a healthy heart. Are they saying someone died
of hyperventilation?

What are 'the toxic effects of cannabis'?

On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:54:08 +0200, "5trfg6h7"
 wrote:

>"Dr John Watson"  wrote in message
>news:77knfdFu8ql2U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/
>
>>
>>
>> Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
>> much pot
>>
>>     *
>>     *
>>
>> By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>>
>> A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>>
>> Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
>> his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>>
>> A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
>> but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
>> Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
>> toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
>> this can lead to heart failure.
>
>A fast heart rate and hyperventilation can lead to heart failure...
>
>Not if you have a healthy heart. Are they saying someone died
>of hyperventilation?

>What are 'the toxic effects of cannabis'?

There aren't any.

Svenne

Svenne wrote:
> On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:54:08 +0200, "5trfg6h7"
>  wrote:
> 
>> "Dr John Watson"  wrote in message
>> news:77knfdFu8ql2U1@mid.individual.net...
>> http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/
>>
>>>
>>> Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
>>> much pot
>>>
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>
>>> By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>>>
>>> A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>>>
>>> Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
>>> his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>>>
>>> A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
>>> but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
>>> Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
>>> toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
>>> this can lead to heart failure.
>> A fast heart rate and hyperventilation can lead to heart failure...
>>
>> Not if you have a healthy heart. Are they saying someone died
>> of hyperventilation?
> 
>> What are 'the toxic effects of cannabis'?
> 
> There aren't any.
> 
> Svenne


	Well if it had no effects no one would use it,
	Whether or not the effects are such that one would
label them "toxic" is another matter.
	Paranoia and speeding of the heart rate are side effects
but an experienced user should be able to discount those minor
effects.
	Unfortunately by this labeling we may never know what
killed the musician.  Incompetence in a coroner is a public
danger.

	later
	bliss

In article  Dr John Watson  writes:
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/
>
>
>Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
>much pot
>
>    *
>    *
>
>By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>
>A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>
>Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
>his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>
>A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
>but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
>Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
>toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
>this can lead to heart failure.

In other words: "we don't know why he died, but since he had been smoking
cannabis it must have been the cause".

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@seeheader.nospam)

Bumper sticker:

    "All the parts falling off this car are of the very finest British
     manufacture"

On May 21, 2:17 pm, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:
> In article  Dr John Watson  writes:

> >http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eightie...
>
> >Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
> >much pot
>
> >By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>
> >A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>
> >Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
> >his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>
> >A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
> >but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
> >Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
> >toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating

I've never experience those effects nor known anyone who has.

> >- and
> >this can lead to heart failure.
>
> In other words: "we don't know why he died, but since he had been smoking
> cannabis it must have been the cause".

Why have the coroners of no other nation ever ruled a death to be from
too much cannabis?

Noticed at Thu, 21 May 2009 17:25:02 +0000: Svenne informed us:

> On Thu, 21 May 2009 18:54:08 +0200, "5trfg6h7"
>  wrote:
> 
>>"Dr John Watson"  wrote in message
>>news:77knfdFu8ql2U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>
>>http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/21/rock-star-from-eighties-indie-band-the-primitives-killed-by-smoking-too-much-pot-115875-21377003/
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rock star from Eighties indie band The Primitives killed by smoking too
>>> much pot
>>>
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>
>>> By Rod Chaytor 21/05/2009
>>>
>>> A rock star was killed by smoking too much cannabis, an inquest has ruled.
>>>
>>> Bassist Steve Dullaghan, 45, who co-wrote the 1988 top five hit Crash with
>>> his band The Primitives, was found at his Coventry home on February 4.
>>>
>>> A toxicology report revealed he had high levels of cannabis in his blood
>>> but no other drug or alcohol. Pathologist Dr Steve Ferryman, of University
>>> Hospital, Coventry, said in a report: "He possibly experienced one of the
>>> toxic effects of cannabis - a fast heart rate and hyperventilating - and
>>> this can lead to heart failure.
>>
>>A fast heart rate and hyperventilation can lead to heart failure...
>>
>>Not if you have a healthy heart. Are they saying someone died
>>of hyperventilation?
> 
>>What are 'the toxic effects of cannabis'?
> 
> There aren't any.

You are forgetting that Gordon Brown told us that "skunk" is a killer.

> Svenne
-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street