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date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:54 +0100 (BST),    group: uk.politics.drugs        back       
Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
In article , drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
John Watson) wrote:

> *From:* Dr John Watson 
> *Date:* Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:04:12 +0100
> 
> Noticed at Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:08:01 +0000: Harry McCulla informed 
> us:
> 
> > 
> > "Dr John Watson"  wrote in message 
> > news:6cjnolF3gmepdU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> * Harm: Ecstasy and cocaine highest, followed by alcohol and 
> heroin, with
> >> cannabis lowest.
> > 
> > I don't understand why ecstasy is rated with the most harmful, 
> > but no mention of methamphetamine (for example).
> 
> Ecstasy is totally opposite to the UK's findings:
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm#drugs
> 
> -- 
> Dr John Watson
> Baker Street
> 
> 
That ranking system should have a health warning, " May contain Nutt(s)"

It is pro legalisation garbage, it will not happen.
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:54 +0100 (BST)   author:   (Claude)

Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
On 30 jun, 01:54, Cla...@aol.com (Claude) wrote:
> In article , drj...@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
>
>
>
>
>
> John Watson) wrote:
> > *From:* Dr John Watson 
> > *Date:* Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:04:12 +0100
>
> > Noticed at Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:08:01 +0000: Harry McCulla informed
> > us:
>
> > > "Dr John Watson"  wrote in message
> > >news:6cjnolF3gmepdU1@mid.individual.net...
> > >> * Harm: Ecstasy and cocaine highest, followed by alcohol and
> > heroin, with
> > >> cannabis lowest.
>
> > > I don't understand why ecstasy is rated with the most harmful,
> > > but no mention of methamphetamine (for example).
>
> > Ecstasy is totally opposite to the UK's findings:
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm#drugs
>
> > --
> > Dr John Watson
> > Baker Street
>
> That ranking system should have a health warning, " May contain Nutt(s)"
>
> It is pro legalisation garbage, it will not happen.

Resistance is futile. Legalization is inevitable.
Your prohibitionist scare tactics are no longer working, because
people can find out the truth about drugs like cannabis online.

Legalize freedom!
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:51:18 -0700 (PDT)   author:   sobriquet

Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
Noticed at Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:54:00 +0100: Claude informed us:

> In article , drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
> John Watson) wrote:
> 
>> *From:* Dr John Watson 
>> *Date:* Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:04:12 +0100
>> 
>> Noticed at Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:08:01 +0000: Harry McCulla informed 
>> us:
>> 
>> > 
>> > "Dr John Watson"  wrote in message 
>> > news:6cjnolF3gmepdU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> * Harm: Ecstasy and cocaine highest, followed by alcohol and 
>> heroin, with
>> >> cannabis lowest.
>> > 
>> > I don't understand why ecstasy is rated with the most harmful, 
>> > but no mention of methamphetamine (for example).
>> 
>> Ecstasy is totally opposite to the UK's findings:
>> 
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm#drugs
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr John Watson
>> Baker Street
>> 
>> 
> That ranking system should have a health warning, " May contain Nutt(s)"
> 
> It is pro legalisation garbage, it will not happen.

You are in a bad mood today. Was it the comments to your CIF article?

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:53:26 +0100   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:53:26 +0100, Dr John Watson
 wrote:

>Noticed at Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:54:00 +0100: Claude informed us:
>
>> In article , drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
>> John Watson) wrote:
>> 
>>> *From:* Dr John Watson 
>>> *Date:* Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:04:12 +0100
>>> 
>>> Noticed at Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:08:01 +0000: Harry McCulla informed 
>>> us:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > "Dr John Watson"  wrote in message 
>>> > news:6cjnolF3gmepdU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >> * Harm: Ecstasy and cocaine highest, followed by alcohol and 
>>> heroin, with
>>> >> cannabis lowest.
>>> > 
>>> > I don't understand why ecstasy is rated with the most harmful, 
>>> > but no mention of methamphetamine (for example).
>>> 
>>> Ecstasy is totally opposite to the UK's findings:
>>> 
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm#drugs
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dr John Watson
>>> Baker Street
>>> 
>>> 
>> That ranking system should have a health warning, " May contain Nutt(s)"
>> 
>> It is pro legalisation garbage, it will not happen.

>You are in a bad mood today. Was it the comments to your CIF article?

Claude cetainly got a bitch slapping there. 

As for his putting down of doctors and scientists who favour a
non-prohibition and rational approach to drugs, considering the
unsavoury people Claude is in bed with, the Swedish
ultra-prohibitionists  Hasselakollektivet, Riksförbundet
Narkotikafritt Samhälle and the rest of the neofascist totalitarians
from that rather repressive and regimented Northern country, I don't
think he is in a postion to throw stones at others.

Svenne
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:25:07 GMT   author:   Svenne

Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:51:18 -0700 (PDT), sobriquet
 wrote:

>Resistance is futile. Legalization is inevitable.
>Your prohibitionist scare tactics are no longer working, because
>people can find out the truth about drugs like cannabis online.
>
>Legalize freedom!

I'm afraid the trend is on Claude's side, and what is happening goes
far beyond drugs, pharmacology and health issues.

The increasingly repressive, control freak, closely monitored,
micromanaged, robot society that is emerging is distinctly anti
freedom and is not  conducive to the idea of autonomous individuals
making their own choices and running their own lives.

The rubicon was crossed for me when I first read of police helicopters
swooping around the rooftops scanning houses in the infra red looking
for illegal botany. The madness of it brought back to me this passage
from Orwell:

"In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, 
hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a
curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping into people's 
windows." 

George Orwell, 1984. 

It his Clauds society. Him and his kind have won and they are marching
us to their regimented and tightly controlled 1984.

The rest of us are Winston Smiths and can only hope to retain our
internal freedom and stay out of their clutches.

Svenne
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:44:24 GMT   author:   Svenne

Re: Cannabis safer than alcohol or tobacco, says study   
Svenne wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:51:18 -0700 (PDT), sobriquet
>  wrote:
>
>> Resistance is futile. Legalization is inevitable.
>> Your prohibitionist scare tactics are no longer working, because
>> people can find out the truth about drugs like cannabis online.
>>
>> Legalize freedom!
>
> I'm afraid the trend is on Claude's side, and what is happening goes
> far beyond drugs, pharmacology and health issues.

Way back in the '60s we thought, at the very least, cannabis would be 
legalised in five to ten years but alas you are right. In spite of every 
indication showing cannabis to be far safer than any legal drug, the 
political opportunist control freaks spurred on by the red top papers are 
now winning the anti-legalisation war whilst all the while loosing their war 
on drugs! As all recent reports shows the tighter they screw down the lid 
the worse it gets!

The logical outcome will be not just a camera in every street but a camera 
in every home and weekly drug test for all! By which time I guess we will 
all be total meth freaks!

Slatts
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:02:57 +0100   author:   Sla#s

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