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date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:56:10 +0000,    group: uk.politics.drugs        back       
Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time By Miles Godfrey Comment |
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Police have raided what is thought to be Britain's most fortified cannabis
cafe for a fourth time.

Officers took around 15 minutes to gain entry to the building, on a slip
road off Freshbrook Road, Lancing, during the raid on Wednesday night.

The raid was executed after two people, a man and a woman, were arrested
for possession of cannabis after being spotted leaving the cafe.

But the heavy fortifications, which consist of metal poles surrounding the
building, two "air lock" style steel doors and a high tech CCTV system,
thwarted officers from getting inside the building quickly.

A Sussex Police spokesman said: "Officers saw a large plume of smoke
emanating from the building on demanding entry and were delayed by some 15
minutes with the occupants failing to open the doors to Sussex Police.

"This building is surrounded by steel poles on which sit tyres full of
concrete, the windows are barred, the doors of which there are two
comprising an air lock are constructed from steel with warnings of
electrified wire present on the premises.

"Officers at the scene reported the smell of cannabis burning in the air
while they waited for entry and on entering found a burner situated on the
premises having been used prior to entry being gained."

No further arrests were made inside the building and no other cannabis was
found.

It follows three previous raids on the building, one in July 2006, where
officers attempted to smash their way into the cafe using a battering ram.

During a second raid in October a tractor was used to pull out a window.
Officers on the third raid simply knocked on the door and asked to be let
in.

On each occasion only small quantities of cannabis have been found.

The Argus has previously revealed how the cafe is full of comfy sofas,
chess boards and books.

Its owner has told the newspaper that he believes the police have been
"heavy handed".

Chief Inspector Lawrence Hobbs admitted the fortifications had hampered
attempts to close the premises.

But both he and other senior Adur police officers have said they are still
"committed to the investigation and prosecution" of those connected with
the cafe.

The police spokesman added: "Officers from Shoreham will continue to stop
and search persons where evidence suggests they are in possession of such
drugs.

"Where found in such possession arrests will be made which may result in a
criminal convictions for drug related offences.

"Sussex Police remains committed to the investigation and prosecution of
those engaged in the production and supply of controlled drugs."

The two people arrested at the scene on Wednesday night received police
cautions.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/display.var.2028068.0.police_raid_cannabis_cafe_for_a_fourth_time.php

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:56:10 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Dr John Watson wrote:

> Police have raided what is thought to be Britain's most fortified
> cannabis cafe for a fourth time.
>
> Officers took around 15 minutes to gain entry to the building, on a
> slip road off Freshbrook Road, Lancing, during the raid on Wednesday
> night.
>
> The raid was executed after two people, a man and a woman, were
> arrested for possession of cannabis after being spotted leaving the
> cafe.
>
> But the heavy fortifications, which consist of metal poles
> surrounding the building, two "air lock" style steel doors and a high
> tech CCTV system, thwarted officers from getting inside the building
> quickly.

If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance 
people in as customers?
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:40:00 -0000   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
On 7 Feb, 22:40, "Steve Walker"  wrote:

> If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance
> people in as customers

Why don't they just fuck off and leave people alone.

When Fuckbrain Brown re-reclassifies cannabis I suppose plod will find
millions of man hours and resources to waste on hunting down and
prosecuting people who prefer a bit of weed to a bottle of booze
instead of going after real criminals.

It makes you wonder what these fuckheads use for brains.

Svenne
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:51:01 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
"Steve Walker"  wrote in message 
news:6118kvF1t52l9U1@mid.individual.net...
> Dr John Watson wrote:
>
>> Police have raided what is thought to be Britain's most fortified
>> cannabis cafe for a fourth time.
>>
>> Officers took around 15 minutes to gain entry to the building, on a
>> slip road off Freshbrook Road, Lancing, during the raid on Wednesday
>> night.
>>
>> The raid was executed after two people, a man and a woman, were
>> arrested for possession of cannabis after being spotted leaving the
>> cafe.
>>
>> But the heavy fortifications, which consist of metal poles
>> surrounding the building, two "air lock" style steel doors and a high
>> tech CCTV system, thwarted officers from getting inside the building
>> quickly.
>
> If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance 
> people in as customers?

Because their kaftans are all at the cleaners and don't match size 12 
hobnail boots anyway. Mind you "Excuse me man, I have reason to believe you 
can turn me on" is a bit of a give-away.
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:54:58 GMT   author:   Janitor of Lunacy

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Steve Walker wrote:

> If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance
> people in as customers?

Probably because

1.  They would be refused entry if they aren't known
2.  They can't incite people to commit an offence by, for example, asking to 
    purchase cannabis.
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:24:40 +0000   author:   Jonathan Bryce ldomain

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
<uk.rec.drugs.cannabis>
<Steve Walker>
<Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:40:00 -0000>


> > But the heavy fortifications, which consist of metal poles
> > surrounding the building, two "air lock" style steel doors and a high
> > tech CCTV system, thwarted officers from getting inside the building
> > quickly.
> 
> If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance 
> people in as customers? 
> 

Excuse me young criminal , But i'm making discrete enquiries about the 
illegal supply and distribution of the illegal narcotic known as 
cannabis bush or cannabis resin - can you assist me ? .

:-)


-- 
www.cannabiswindow.co.uk
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:32:53 -0000   author:   Krustov

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:40:00 +0000: Steve Walker informed us:

> Dr John Watson wrote:
> 
>> Police have raided what is thought to be Britain's most fortified
>> cannabis cafe for a fourth time.
>>
>> Officers took around 15 minutes to gain entry to the building, on a
>> slip road off Freshbrook Road, Lancing, during the raid on Wednesday
>> night.
>>
>> The raid was executed after two people, a man and a woman, were
>> arrested for possession of cannabis after being spotted leaving the
>> cafe.
>>
>> But the heavy fortifications, which consist of metal poles
>> surrounding the building, two "air lock" style steel doors and a high
>> tech CCTV system, thwarted officers from getting inside the building
>> quickly.
> 
> If they're so bothered, why don't they send plain-clothes surveillance 
> people in as customers?

Plod can't play chess.

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:36:35 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:51:01 -0800: tvaerskaegg informed us:

> Why don't they just fuck off and leave people alone.
> 
> When Fuckbrain Brown re-reclassifies cannabis I suppose plod will find
> millions of man hours and resources to waste on hunting down and
> prosecuting people who prefer a bit of weed to a bottle of booze instead
> of going after real criminals.
> 
> It makes you wonder what these fuckheads use for brains.
> 
> Svenne

Class B status will keep David Raynes, Peter Stoker and Peter O'Loughlin
(who all appeared simultaneously in recent newspaper discussion forums)
able to continue their advise, culminating with class A.

Then they'll come for the chocolate. Evidence shows that 60% of dogs given
more than 2 bars of Cadbury Daily Moral die of the shits within five days.

This is sarcasm, btw, in case anybody named above reads it.

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:53:06 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
On 7 Feb, 19:56, Dr John Watson  wrote:

> "This building is surrounded by steel poles on which sit tyres full of
> concrete, the windows are barred, the doors of which there are two
> comprising an air lock are constructed from steel with warnings of
> electrified wire present on the premises.

I suppose an anti-tank missile is out of the question? I'd have
thought the SAS would have no great difficulty in finding their way
in.

The only other sensible alternative would seem to be to search /
everyone/ entering and leaving the premises until supplies dry up.
Cutting off electricity, water and sewerage connections would seem
pretty logical too.

Ian
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:55:54 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ian

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:55:54 -0800: Ian informed us:

> On 7 Feb, 19:56, Dr John Watson  wrote:
> 
>> "This building is surrounded by steel poles on which sit tyres full of
>> concrete, the windows are barred, the doors of which there are two
>> comprising an air lock are constructed from steel with warnings of
>> electrified wire present on the premises.
> 
> I suppose an anti-tank missile is out of the question? I'd have
> thought the SAS would have no great difficulty in finding their way
> in.

This fortress must be so big we should be able to see it on Google Earth
or Windows Live Maps!

> The only other sensible alternative would seem to be to search /
> everyone/ entering and leaving the premises until supplies dry up.
> Cutting off electricity, water and sewerage connections would seem
> pretty logical too.

Why? Apart from being there, what trouble are they causing?

> 
> Ian
-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:01:09 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
On 7 Feb, 23:01, Dr John Watson  wrote:
> Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:55:54 -0800: Ian informed us:

> > The only other sensible alternative would seem to be to search /
> > everyone/ entering and leaving the premises until supplies dry up.
> > Cutting off electricity, water and sewerage connections would seem
> > pretty logical too.
>
> Why? Apart from being there, what trouble are they causing?

Blatantly luting the law, which is the basis for our civilised
society, and inducing mental illness in the stupid. Though let's face
it, anyone who needs to smoke joints in a concrete bunker to get some
pleasure probabl isn't one of life's great success stories.

Ian
date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:08:01 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ian

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:08:01 -0800: Ian informed us:

> On 7 Feb, 23:01, Dr John Watson  wrote:
>> Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:55:54 -0800: Ian informed us:
> 
>> > The only other sensible alternative would seem to be to search /
>> > everyone/ entering and leaving the premises until supplies dry up.
>> > Cutting off electricity, water and sewerage connections would seem
>> > pretty logical too.
>>
>> Why? Apart from being there, what trouble are they causing?
> 
> Blatantly luting the law, which is the basis for our civilised
> society, and inducing mental illness in the stupid. Though let's face
> it, anyone who needs to smoke joints in a concrete bunker to get some
> pleasure probabl isn't one of life's great success stories.
> 
> Ian

So, it's the luting the law that's the problem?

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:13:28 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
On 8 feb, 00:08, Ian  wrote:
> On 7 Feb, 23:01, Dr John Watson  wrote:
>
> > Noticed at Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:55:54 -0800: Ian informed us:
> > > The only other sensible alternative would seem to be to search /
> > > everyone/ entering and leaving the premises until supplies dry up.
> > > Cutting off electricity, water and sewerage connections would seem
> > > pretty logical too.
>
> > Why? Apart from being there, what trouble are they causing?
>
> Blatantly luting the law, which is the basis for our civilised
> society, and inducing mental illness in the stupid. Though let's face
> it, anyone who needs to smoke joints in a concrete bunker to get some
> pleasure probabl isn't one of life's great success stories.
>
> Ian

Civilized society?
Ok, we're supposed to believe that adults can wreck their brain on
alcohol until they die
without any legal consequences whatsoever, but somehow we need the
government to protect people
against themselves from cannabis, a substance that has never killed
anyone?

Sounds a bit like calling former nazi Germany a civilized society and
claiming that turning in jews
hiding at the neighbors at that time was the right thing to do,
because after all it was the law and Hitler
was democratically elected as a leader.
Cannabis prohibition is equally 'civilized' as racial segregation laws
or laws to exterminate people based
on their political convictions, sexual orientation, choice of
lifestyle, etc.

Please explain to me why we can't have a society where people are free
to pursue a lifestyle of their preference
as long as it doesn't interfere with other people's rights?
In my opinion that's a good definition of a free, open and civilized
society.
date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 00:43:45 -0800 (PST)   author:   sobriquet

Re: Police raid cannabis cafe for a fourth time   
Ian wrote:
<SNIP>>> Why? Apart from being there, what trouble are they causing?
>
> Blatantly luting the law, which is the basis for our civilised
> society, and inducing mental illness in the stupid. Though let's face
> it, anyone who needs to smoke joints in a concrete bunker to get some
> pleasure probabl isn't one of life's great success stories.
>

So when slavery was legal by your reckoning it was OK?
To kill someone because he has a different imaginary friend in the sky is 
OK?
All the other unjust laws that jailed or slaughtered innocent people are OK?

A citizen has the right, nay, the duty to disobey unjust laws.
( St. Augustine)

As for the mental illness red herring - alcohol is far worse (As posted here 
by Phil several times)

As for success stories - they did keep the police out long enough to clear 
the place :-)
<Successful Result!>

Slatts
date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:41:44 -0000   author:   Sla#s

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