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date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:19:22 +0000,    group: uk.politics.drugs        back       
Re: BBC1 - Panorama - Cocaine: Alex James in Colombia   
In article  "Gaz"  writes:
>Pete nospam Zakel wrote:
>> In article  "Gaz"
>>  writes:
>>> Dr John Watson wrote:

>>>> I'm unable to watch it, but I might be able to see it later on the
>>>> BBC's iPlayer (if it works).
>>>>
>>>> I doubt they'll mention that most of the problems are caused by
>>>> prohibition - if you legalise cocaine the problems will evaporate.
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7200749.stm

>>> I am not sure how anyone who has the brains to earn a doctorate, can
>>> say such a stupid thing. If you legalise Cocaine, you may solve some
>>> of the problems, you may alleviate others, but the problems will not
>>> 'evaporate', and you are likely to be left with a whole series of
>>> consequential problems.

>> You are correct.  But the problems related to cocaine being legal
>> will be
>> far fewer and more easily manageable than the problems related to
>> cocaine being prohibited.

>Possibly so.... But cocaine, is largely a 'party' drug, taken by people on a 
>recreational basis, of course, you will alwyas have the ones who take to 
>much on to regular a basis. But it has nowhere near the potency of Crack or 
>Heroine. I would suggest it is possible to live a normal life while taking 
>Cocaine occasionally, and it might be argued that taking heroine in a 
>controlled environment and dosage, the same could be said. But Crack is 
>different, crack is really bad shit, it doesnt take prisoners, it doesnt 
>take casual users. Once you are on it, you are not going to come off it of 
>your own free will, and you are not going to be able to live anything like a 
>productive life.

Most people would never even try crack for that reason.

The main reason that the "crack epidemic" burned itself out was because people
saw what happened to crackheads and decided to avoid it.

And remember that crack probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for
prohibition.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@seeheader.nospam)

"It is a rather pleasent experience to be alone in a bank at night."

					-Willie Sutton
date: 28 Jan 2008 17:18:22 -0800   author:   (Pete nospam Zakel)

Cannabis link to 80 per cent of new mental cases   
It's our friend, The Daily Moral again!

Cannabis link to 80 per cent of new mental cases By MATTHEW HICKLEY - More
by this author ยป Last updated at 22:50pm on 28th January 2008

Comments Comments
schoolboy smoking cannabis

Asking for trouble: Psychiatrists have warned that children as young as 10
or 11 are now smoking cannabis and are trebling their chances of
developing schizophrenia

Eighty per cent of patients newly-diagnosed with schizophrenia and other
psychiatric illnesses are heavy users of cannabis, scientists have warned
ministers.

The shocking figure emerged in a dossier submitted to Whitehall drug
advisers as Gordon Brown weighs up whether or not to reverse Labour's
"softly-softly" policy of downgrading cannabis.

Campaigners have pointed to a flood of scientific evidence on the
devastating damage the drug can do to mental and physical health.

Much of it has come in the four years since David Blunkett decided to
reclassify cannabis from Class B to Class C, so that most users caught by
police no longer face arrest or a criminal record.

The Prime Minister ordered a review of that policy last summer following
years of warnings that stronger "skunk" varieties of cannabis are wreaking
havoc on users' mental health.

The Government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs will take
evidence from leading academics next week before sending its latest
official advice to ministers.

Psychiatrist Professor Peter Jones, of Cambridge University, says in the
dossier that eight out of ten newly-diagnosed psychiatric disorders affect
heavy or dependent cannabis users.

He warns that children who are starting to smoke cannabis as young as ten
or 11 could be trebling their risk of schizophrenia.

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Reform: Gordon Brown, who ordered a review of Britain's drug laws after
becoming PM last summer is now being urged to reverse David Blunkett's
downgrade of cannabis from Class B to Class C

Other new evidence of harm to mental health includes a UK study suggesting
that by 2010 as many as 25 per cent of all cases of schizophrenia would be
actually triggered by cannabis use.

In a letter published in the Times yesterday, leading researchers and
policy experts urged ministers to read the evidence and to toughen the law
again.

A U.S. study found that smoking just half a cannabis joint could trigger
schizophrenia-related symptoms.

Biologist Mary Brett of the Europe Against Drugs campaign, a signatory to
the letter, said: "Every single piece of research around the world now
emerging is bad news."

A Home Office spokesman said: "We have always said that cannabis is an
illegal and harmful drug.

"But to tackle drugs in the most effective way we need to monitor and
review the ways in which we reduce the harm caused by illegal substances.

"That is why we are reviewing cannabis classification."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=510903&in_page_id=1774

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:19:22 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

Re: Cannabis link to 80 per cent of new mental cases   
On Jan 29, 2:19 am, Dr John Watson 
wrote:

> Psychiatrist Professor Peter Jones, of Cambridge University, says in the
> dossier that eight out of ten newly-diagnosed psychiatric disorders affect
> heavy or dependent cannabis users.
> [...]
> A U.S. study found that smoking just half a cannabis joint could trigger
> schizophrenia-related symptoms.

ROTFL! The best jokes are the ones not meant as jokes.
date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:45:52 -0800 (PST)   author:   M_P

Re: Cannabis link to 80 per cent of new mental cases   
> The Prime Minister ordered a review of that policy last summer following
> years of warnings that stronger "skunk" varieties of cannabis are wreaking
> havoc on users' mental health.

Which is insane. There are no 'stronger "skunk" varieties of cannabis'. They
don't exist. 'Skunk' is a British street term for well grown weed. Whenever
official government policy is based on street slang, you know what time it is.

If they reclassify weed, it is a decision based on politics, not on public health
information.

It is just politics.

> He warns that children who are starting to smoke cannabis as young as
> ten or 11 could be trebling their risk of schizophrenia.

Based on what evidence again?

Who is breeding these 'new strains of Skunk'? What is their name?
What is the name of the breeder?
date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:21:16 +0100   author:   5trfg6h7

Re: Cannabis link to 80 per cent of new mental cases   
Noticed at Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:21:16 +0100: 5trfg6h7 informed us:

>> The Prime Minister ordered a review of that policy last summer following
>> years of warnings that stronger "skunk" varieties of cannabis are wreaking
>> havoc on users' mental health.
> 
> Which is insane. There are no 'stronger "skunk" varieties of cannabis'. They
> don't exist. 'Skunk' is a British street term for well grown weed. Whenever
> official government policy is based on street slang, you know what time it is.
> 
> If they reclassify weed, it is a decision based on politics, not on public health
> information.
> 
> It is just politics.
> 
>> He warns that children who are starting to smoke cannabis as young as
>> ten or 11 could be trebling their risk of schizophrenia.
> 
> Based on what evidence again?

The age of criminal responsibility in the UK is 10. They will be locking
up ten-year-olds to "protect" them from cannabis-induced schizophrenia.

> Who is breeding these 'new strains of Skunk'? What is their name?
> What is the name of the breeder?

Ting-Tong, from 'Nam.

-- 
Dr John Watson
Baker Street
date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:00:30 +0000   author:   Dr John Watson

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