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date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:58:32 -0700,    group: uk.politics.crime        back       
Tough on the causes of crime?   
Or just "tough" on the reporting of crime?

After all, if crimes are no longer reported, some can argue that they
just haven't happened.

http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2193847/government-defends-crime

(http://tinyurl.com/2xg89n)

[quote]
Government defends e-crime reporting change
Informing banks rather than police about cyber crime will help detect
patterns of criminal activity, claims Home Office

Parliamentary reporter, Computing, 10 Jul 2007

The government has defended a decision to make banks the first point
of contact for reporting computer crime.

The Home Office introduced the new procedure in April, whereby
businesses and consumers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland have
to report instances of online, cheque and card fraud to their bank or
building society instead of the police.
During a Commons Home Affairs question session yesterday, junior Home
Office Minister Vernon Coaker said the move will help to better
understand crime patterns.

'That means not only that people will be recompensed for losses they
have incurred but that the law enforcement agencies will be able to
detect patterns of criminal activity as a result of which far more
perpetrators of fraud will be caught and dealt with by the courts,' he
told MPs.

Conservative MP for Hornchurch James Brokenshire said that stopping
the reporting of online banking fraud direct to the police 'sends a
confused message about the seriousness with which this type of crime
is treated and suggests the Home Office either cannot cope or cannot
be bothered with e-crime.'

Coaker said the Association of Chief Police Officers is considering
the business case for setting up a central e-crime co-ordination unit
and insisted e-crime is taken seriously.

E-crime reporting used to be handled by the National Hi-Tech Crime
Unit, but since it was disbanded and merged into the new Serious and
Organised Crime Agency in April 2006, there has been no central unit
dealing with cyber crime reporting.

[unquote]

Such patent stupidity is entirely typical of Vernon Croaker and the
rest of the former 3rd XI reserve no-hopers who now form the
"government".

Perhaps they should spend their summer recess learning at least how to
run a piss-up in a brewery, so that they might return with at least a
slightly improved understanding of how to run the country?

Even then, I doubt they would even begin to understand why nobody with
a mind of their own would believe a word the "government" told them.

--
 x     If you have been, to whom was it reported?
/|\
date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:58:32 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Tough on the causes of crime?   
Theo_Delight@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2193847/government-defends-crime
> (http://tinyurl.com/2xg89n)
>
> [quote]
> Government defends e-crime reporting change
> Informing banks rather than police about cyber crime will help detect
> patterns of criminal activity, claims Home Office
>
> Parliamentary reporter, Computing, 10 Jul 2007
>
> The government has defended a decision to make banks the first point
> of contact for reporting computer crime.

If this pilot proves successful, from Jan 2008 'Help The Aged' will be made 
responsible for dealing with stolen pension books.
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:41:37 +0100   author:   Steve Walker

Re: Tough on the causes of crime?   
On 11 Jul, 09:41, "Steve Walker"  wrote:
> Theo_Deli...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2193847/government-defends-...
> > (http://tinyurl.com/2xg89n)
>
> > [quote]
> > Government defends e-crime reporting change
> > Informing banks rather than police about cyber crime will help detect
> > patterns of criminal activity, claims Home Office
>
> > Parliamentary reporter, Computing, 10 Jul 2007
>
> > The government has defended a decision to make banks the first point
> > of contact for reporting computer crime.
>
> If this pilot proves successful, from Jan 2008 'Help The Aged' will be made
> responsible for dealing with stolen pension books.

Don't be so ****ing silly.

Pension books were phased out years ago. Pensions are now paid into
bank accounts ... oh, hang on ....
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:03:16 -0700   author:   Jethro

Re: Tough on the causes of crime?   
On 11 Jul, 09:41, "Steve Walker"  wrote:
> Theo_Deli...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2193847/government-defends-...
> > (http://tinyurl.com/2xg89n)
>
> > [quote]
> > Government defends e-crime reporting change
> > Informing banks rather than police about cyber crime will help detect
> > patterns of criminal activity, claims Home Office
>
> > Parliamentary reporter, Computing, 10 Jul 2007
>
> > The government has defended a decision to make banks the first point
> > of contact for reporting computer crime.
>
> If this pilot proves successful, from Jan 2008 'Help The Aged' will be made
> responsible for dealing with stolen pension books.

What "pension books"?

State retirement pensions and other benefits are paid directly into
bank accounts, as part of New Labour's war on the Post Office.

Still, perhaps the BMA could be persuaded to take on the role of
recording data on drug abuse...

--
 x     If you have been, was it recorded correctly?
/|\
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:09:23 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Tough on the causes of crime?   
In message , 
"Theo_Delight@yahoo.co.uk"  writes
>On 11 Jul, 09:41, "Steve Walker"  wrote:
>> Theo_Deli...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> >http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2193847/government-defends-...
>> > (http://tinyurl.com/2xg89n)
>>
>> > [quote]
>> > Government defends e-crime reporting change
>> > Informing banks rather than police about cyber crime will help detect
>> > patterns of criminal activity, claims Home Office
>>
>> > Parliamentary reporter, Computing, 10 Jul 2007
>>
>> > The government has defended a decision to make banks the first point
>> > of contact for reporting computer crime.
>>
>> If this pilot proves successful, from Jan 2008 'Help The Aged' will be made
>> responsible for dealing with stolen pension books.
>
>What "pension books"?
>
>State retirement pensions and other benefits are paid directly into
>bank accounts, as part of New Labour's war on the Post Office.
>

Well there are around 4.5 million Post Office Card Accounts used to 
receive benefits so not entirely an attack on the post office and 
pensioners can still have books if they want them, it just isn't made 
very easy for them.


-- 
Mike_B
date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:35:18 GMT   author:   Mike_B

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