Dear Forum,

Surely there is a reason for the creation of your forums. There is a
reason why this forum is here and why all others are here. We even
look at the forum rules and deduct that these forums are here for the
purpose of dialogue. What then is the purpose of dialogue is a more
pressing question. Our common sense tells us that dialogue is for the
purpose of expressing issues and problems ultimately with the goal of
finding solutions and answers. 

We can see, however, that most internet discussion forums do not
secure their stated objectives. The obvious reason for this is the
people that are posting. Most of them are not only not here to provide
dialogue, as if they were neutral and merely making prank posts, but
are here to destroy dialogue, and to make sure that the truth is not
understood. I am not talking about posters that have honest ideas that
are not accurate. I'm talking about posters who are specifically here
to deceive the readers. I am talking about posters who have shown they
constantly post things they themselves do not actually believe. Many
of them have been caught in such lies. They have been instructed to
continue posting those lies if they are even caught and exposed, and
to then send posts merely insulting those who figure this out.

We have exposed posters even telling us that they don't have to answer
questions in the dialogue of the debate. If we ever told them these
words in debate, they would quickly claim that is proof our ideas are
not accurate. They now find themselves not being able to answer our
questions, so they just pretend that those questions are not there. 

The next logical step is to tell us they are very concerned about our
mental health since we believe that to engage in dialogue and debate,
questions must be addressed and answered. One particular poster was
caught lying by, when asked why he ignores pointed questions given to
him in debate and refuses to participate when asked to give evidence
for his statements, claimed that he already posted the evidence
supporting his beliefs many times, but that it is useless to get
through our hard heads. He said he was tired providing the evidence,
so he doesn't provide it anymore. I proved he was lying. I showed that
he claimed he was so tired providing evidence for what he posts, that
he is still nonetheless tirelessly posting all the time without
providing any evidence for what he says.

It is because we do not understand the consequences for tolerating
these posters why the internet is so messed up. And a formerly
valuable tool for being even able to alert the masses of possible
crisis and tragedies in the future is corrupted. What kind of people
would be constantly posting lies on these free systems? You think they
are just debaters? Your friends would not lie to you especially over
vital issues. The readers themselves don't seem to understand that
these posters are posting lies because they regard the readers as
enemies. The readers have the freedom to view ideas. They have the
freedom to post their ideas. Many people posting do not like these
freedoms, so they are sent to confuse the readers from understanding
that these rights are being dismantled right under their noses.

The rules of virtually every internet discussion forum we know of has
rules that profit people who are fascists and who are in treason
against the United States and the rest of the free world. Every
Christian forum we know of is the same. They have rules that are even
completely out of line of the behavior of Jesus Christ. Every single
forum we know of refuses to have rules against lying and deliberately
deceiving on their systems. All of these forums have rules that
protect the reputations of people who are monsters and who don't
really care about their reputations. It is just like we saw of
President Bush, with clear eyes on global networks, saying he didn't
think anyone could have figure out there might have been a problem
with the levys in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina struck even after
shown on video with officials briefing him on that very possibility,
to then have honest posters and honest Americans constantly bombarded
by fascist posters telling us we have to guard the reputation of the
president. Documentation shows him lying just as well as the posters
on all the forums. What person, in all common sense, is going to
struggle to maintain his reputation and integrity if he himself
struggles to destroy it so much, he has to rely on a propaganda team
all over the internet to do it? President Bush knows a staggering
portion of the global population doesn't trust him. This is the
so-called democratic president that will even start wars to coax
leaders to listen to what their people think!! President Bush doesn't
blush and never talks about the distrust he has earned. He sits back
while fascists flood every media free or otherwise.

Jesus Himself, contrary to the typical rules of most forums, was often
not nice to nor protective of the reputations of dishonest or
dangerous people. He was the one who fashioned a whip and ran
throughout the temple at Jerusalem to overthrow the tables of the
moneychangers. Every fascist we know of on the forums claim they know
what is nasty, hateful and mean, and would often cover over the
deliberate lies they tell by accusing those who expose those lies of
being hateful and mean. The readers normally do not understand that
these are fascists who have a history of hate well beyond the
substrata of any of the most degraded prisons. But most forum owners
and administrators consent to be deceived in making all kinds of rules
that protect these fascists, and never think for the actual benefit of
the readers to provide a simple rule that lies will not be tolerated
on their system. I'm saying that Jesus at times was not very nice to
the people He was rebuking or exposing. But one thing is certain, He
never tolerated lying, nor could he ever do it. The rules of most
every forum are reverse or backward. Of all the rules they create,
they never think to prohibit deliberate lying or deceiving.

The forum at the seventh-dayadventism.com website was unique and
different. It purposed not to waste the time of the readers or people,
even though that at times happened anyway. Strange people were
regularly kicked off, but would return with other false names and
email accounts. They posted lies again and were kicked off again. It
is not as convenient with an AOL account to get oneself kicked off.
That system demanded discussion. It demanded that if a person is asked
a clear question, the person being asked has to answer as clearly as
possible. After a couple of refusals, that person is kicked off. No
one was allowed to evade any question or change the subject in any way
so typical of most of the other forums. Anyone making a statement can
be challenged. The challenger then provides questions that contend
with what the first posted sent. He was charged to answer. Wasting the
time of the readers was not permitted.

It is one thing to have a service for the benefit of the general
public. It is then another to have even threads with all kinds of
frivolous posts, often containing blank insults and even profane
gestures that actually defeat the purpose of any respected forum. It
is another to have posters actually lying to the readers over very
vital issues, and to even have their lies proven to be lies from which
they then merely repeat those lies.

Among those we hear constantly that have been disproven are:

1. Bill Clinton Caused 911!
2. The Democrats to Blame for High Fuel Prices!
3. Pre-emptive war is the way to go! We must attack countries that
mean us harm before they actually do something bad or commit any
crimes. They then tell us when we are concerned about the
repercussions of the Patriot Act, that we have to wait for soldiers to
come kicking down our doors before we act to curtail it.
4. We Must Not Give Due Process to Terrorists! even though Saddam
Hussein is getting such due process,
ETC. Telling us that a person becomes a terrorist merely when
President Bush accuses that person, and then from that time he gets no
trial nor justice.

"If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough and often enough the
people will believe it. They are more likely to believe a big lie than
a small one."
-- Adolf Hitler

We can see this principle at work all over the internet. This
experience doesn't mean we have rude posters. This experience is a
repeat of history where we need to gage what happened afterward so
that we can tell even the readers what is about to happen now.
Every forum should have rules prohibiting deceit, and then to have a
posted board containing ideas that had been definitely proven to date.
Everyone should look at the ideas proven sound, and then be shown
ideas that challenged these sound ideas and how they were disproven so
that a strange person doesn't come around again and challenge the
sound ideas with the same lies that have been disproven. Every poster
who refuses to address clear questions should be sent home. This would
indeed be a very unique forum if it hosted such rules.

The Actual Purpose of the Patriot Act
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/AC/AppealChapIntro4.htm

The Actual Purpose of Illegal War
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/AC/ApealChapIntro5.htm

Test Your Political IQ Here:
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com/AC/AppealChapIQExhibits.htm


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