Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082


How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!


CHINA - "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress 
can be judged by the way its animals are treated. "
                                                           - Mahatma Gandhi

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:18:30 -0600, O.pearl wrote
(in article <4jxvm.30154$j7.493374@news.indigo.ie>):

> 
> 
> Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082
> 
> 
> How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!

I eat meat, wear leather shoes and even have a leather belt.   If I could 
afford to buy my wife a fur coat I sure would.  But maybe you could have said 
stop buying China imports rather than just stop buying fur?

BTW, I enjoy hunting deer, geese, ducks and upland game birds too...



-- 
Cheers!

Dennis

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"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message news:0001HW.C6E4115B0014E885B02DE9BF@news.sasktel.net...
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:18:30 -0600, O.pearl wrote
> (in article <4jxvm.30154$j7.493374@news.indigo.ie>):
> 
>> Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
>> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082
>> 
>> How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!
> 
> I eat meat, wear leather shoes and even have a leather belt.   If I could 
> afford to buy my wife a fur coat I sure would.  But maybe you could have said 
> stop buying China imports rather than just stop buying fur?
> 
> BTW, I enjoy hunting deer, geese, ducks and upland game birds too...

Dennis, you are a human purely by accident of birth.  You could equally
be a deer, a dog, goose, cow, or any other animal, and experience the
pain, suffering and brutal death some humans callously inflict on others.
Try to imagine yourself in their place, and consider how it feels.  Surely
you wouldn't want to be treated in that way.  Please reconsider, thanks.

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:33:12 -0600, O.pearl wrote
(in article <U3Ivm.30156$j7.493343@news.indigo.ie>):

> "Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message 
> news:0001HW.C6E4115B0014E885B02DE9BF@news.sasktel.net...
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:18:30 -0600, O.pearl wrote
>> (in article <4jxvm.30154$j7.493374@news.indigo.ie>):
>> 
>>> Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
>>> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082
>>> 
>>> How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!
>> 
>> I eat meat, wear leather shoes and even have a leather belt.   If I could 
>> afford to buy my wife a fur coat I sure would.  But maybe you could have 
>> said 
>> stop buying China imports rather than just stop buying fur?
>> 
>> BTW, I enjoy hunting deer, geese, ducks and upland game birds too...
> 
> Dennis, you are a human purely by accident of birth.  You could equally
> be a deer, a dog, goose, cow, or any other animal, and experience the
> pain, suffering and brutal death some humans callously inflict on others.
> Try to imagine yourself in their place, and consider how it feels.  Surely
> you wouldn't want to be treated in that way.  Please reconsider, thanks.


Oh piss off.  This is cross posted to a fashion ng so what's you're point?  
I'll be putting steaks on the bbq tonight whilst we've still got some weather 
to do it in up here in the great white north.  The geese are getting together 
for the big flight so I suppose I'd best get the shotgun ready so we'll have 
some great suppers over that long cold winter...





-- 
Cheers!

Dennis

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"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message news:0001HW.C6E4DC5300033585B03B19BF@news.sasktel.net...

> Oh piss off.  This is cross posted to a fashion ng so what's you're point?

Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082

Why did you need to respond to this?  Such cruelty is regarded as wholly
unacceptable by the vast majority.  To brag about your own bloodbaths.

'psy·cho·path
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive,
perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

Psychopathy (pronounced /sakopi/ in General American) is a term derived
from the Greek psyche (soul) and pathos (suffering), and was once used to
denote any form of mental illness. Currently, psychopathy is defined in
psychiatry as a condition characterized by lack of empathy or conscience,
poor impulse control and manipulative behaviors.

I would describe psychopaths as intra-species predators who use charm,
manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others and to satisfy their
own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and in feelings for others, they
cold-bloodedly take what they want and do as they please, violating social
norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or regret.
..
so·ci·o·path
-noun Psychiatry.
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and
who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Sociopathy is chiefly characterized by something wrong with the person's
conscience. They either don't have one, it's full of holes like Swiss cheese,
or they are somehow able to completely neutralize or negate any sense of
conscience or future time perspective. Sociopaths only care about fulfilling
their own needs and desires - selfishness and egocentricity to the extreme.
Everything and everybody else is mentally twisted around in their minds as
objects to be used in fulfilling their own needs and desires. They often
believe they are doing something good for society, or at least nothing that
bad.
..'
http://noisyroom.com/?p=217

On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:33:12 -0600, O.pearl wrote
(in article <U3Ivm.30156$j7.493343@news.indigo.ie>):

> "Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message 
> news:0001HW.C6E4115B0014E885B02DE9BF@news.sasktel.net...
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:18:30 -0600, O.pearl wrote
>> (in article <4jxvm.30154$j7.493374@news.indigo.ie>):
>> 
>>> Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
>>> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082
>>> 
>>> How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!
>> 
>> I eat meat, wear leather shoes and even have a leather belt.   If I could 
>> afford to buy my wife a fur coat I sure would.  But maybe you could have 
>> said 
>> stop buying China imports rather than just stop buying fur?
>> 
>> BTW, I enjoy hunting deer, geese, ducks and upland game birds too...
> 
> Dennis, you are a human purely by accident of birth.  You could equally
> be a deer, a dog, goose, cow, or any other animal, and experience the
> pain, suffering and brutal death some humans callously inflict on others.
> Try to imagine yourself in their place, and consider how it feels.  Surely
> you wouldn't want to be treated in that way.  Please reconsider, thanks.


There's nothing to reconsider.  I eat meat and enjoy it.  Heck, one of my 
favorite things is going out for steak & lobster with my lovely bride.  I'm 
supposed to reconsider that?

And yes, we all are human accidentally by birth but doesn't that apply to any 
species?   I don't hunt our of season and I don't harm my fellow humans so I 
guess that's fair.  Ever watch what really happens in the wild and how they 
eat meat?



-- 
Cheers!

Dennis

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"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message news:0001HW.C6E9539E000993C6B02919BF@news.sasktel.net...
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:33:12 -0600, O.pearl wrote
> (in article <U3Ivm.30156$j7.493343@news.indigo.ie>):
> 
>> "Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@canada.com> wrote in message 
>> news:0001HW.C6E4115B0014E885B02DE9BF@news.sasktel.net...
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:18:30 -0600, O.pearl wrote
>>> (in article <4jxvm.30154$j7.493374@news.indigo.ie>):
>>> 
>>>> Violating animal rights and harsh killing of animals
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230860080082
>>>> 
>>>> How do we stop this bloody HELL?  STOP buying fur!!!
>>> 
>>> I eat meat, wear leather shoes and even have a leather belt.   If I could 
>>> afford to buy my wife a fur coat I sure would.  But maybe you could have 
>>> said 
>>> stop buying China imports rather than just stop buying fur?
>>> 
>>> BTW, I enjoy hunting deer, geese, ducks and upland game birds too...
>> 
>> Dennis, you are a human purely by accident of birth.  You could equally
>> be a deer, a dog, goose, cow, or any other animal, and experience the
>> pain, suffering and brutal death some humans callously inflict on others.
>> Try to imagine yourself in their place, and consider how it feels.  Surely
>> you wouldn't want to be treated in that way.  Please reconsider, thanks.
> 
> 
> There's nothing to reconsider.  I eat meat and enjoy it.  Heck, one of my 
> favorite things is going out for steak & lobster with my lovely bride.  I'm 
> supposed to reconsider that?
> 
> And yes, we all are human accidentally by birth but doesn't that apply to any 
> species?   I don't hunt our of season and I don't harm my fellow humans so I 
> guess that's fair.  Ever watch what really happens in the wild and how they 
> eat meat?

Eat mean, suffer brain damage, become more violent, harm fellow humans.

On Oct 1, 2:27 am, Ruddell <ruddell'Elle-Kabo...@canada.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:33:12 -0600, O.pearl wrote
> (in article <U3Ivm.30156$j7.493...@news.indigo.ie>):
>
> >
>
> There's nothing to reconsider.  I eat meat and enjoy it.  Heck, one of my
> favorite things is going out for steak & lobster with my lovely bride.  I'm
> supposed to reconsider that?

No accounting for tastes, do what you enjoy and have thought through
yourself, not what some newsgroup trolls, lobbyists, or even your
parents (or bride) have pushed on you.  :)

Lobsters were for a long time only considered a food fit for slaves
and prisoners.
Then people discovered that by increasing the price they could make
them popular.
Now they are a different species entirely due to trapping, they have
changed because only the ones able to breed in the first year or two
of life have survived.  Very quick evolution.

As for the bovines, originally only slaughtered when times were really
tough and no other food could be obtained.
Personally, I agree with Crocodile Dundee, "you can eat it but it
tastes like ____".

Bon appetit!