On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:06:03 -0000, "pearl" 
wrote:

>"Jim Webster"  wrote in message news:5u46btF1fsv9gU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "pearl"  wrote in message
>> news:flin95$9kf$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> > "Jim Webster"  wrote in message
>> > news:5u451pF1g4abpU1@mid.individual.net...
>>  >> irrelevent cut and paste cut out
>> >
>> > Jim on the run.
>>
>> no, I don't read screeds of cut and paste crap that you don't understand
>
>Go tell DEFRA it's "crap", and let us know what their response is.
>
>> >> >> they were planted where there was never any woodland, because the
>> >> >> land was mudflat when the tide finally left
>> >> >> The native flora before agriculture was mudflat
>> >> >
>> >> > 'The region's coast includes the Humber estuary
>> >>
>> >> no it doesn't
>> >
>> > So where are you exactly?
>
>Well?
>
>> >> deal with the real world,
>> >
>> > I am.
>>
>> then why did you say the humber estury is in Cumbria
>
>I didn't.  I don't know whether you're in Yorkshire or Cumbria.
>
>What I was showing you is that mudflats are important habitat.
>
>Cumbria..
>
>'The Solway Coast is a tide-washed estuary between southwest
>Scotland and northwest Cumbria. Mud flats and marsh are
>created by the narrowing of Solway Firth, the bore tides and
>strong currents, and the flat land.
>..
>Diverse animal and bird life inhabit all areas of the Solway Coast.
>Thyme, spiny restharrow, yellow kidney vetch and pale blue
>harebells nestle in the sand dunes while skylark and barn owls
>fly overhead. Wading birds such as lapwing, oystercatcher,
>and curlew cover the sands at low tide.
>..'
>Farm fields and hedgerows extend over what was forest land
>until the 1400s.
>..'
>http://www.thecumbriadirectory.com/Cumbria_Countryside/Cumbria_Coast/Solway_Coast/Solway_Coast.php
>

I make that about 4-0 to you. You're already into the second round and
it's the first match of the season. ;-)









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The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
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It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message news:gb5qn3h0b91cbml6u9ooh1af5dgpb861nr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:06:03 -0000, "pearl" 
> wrote:
>
> >"Jim Webster"  wrote in message news:5u46btF1fsv9gU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>
> >> "pearl"  wrote in message
> >> news:flin95$9kf$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >> > "Jim Webster"  wrote in message
> >> > news:5u451pF1g4abpU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>  >> irrelevent cut and paste cut out
> >> >
> >> > Jim on the run.
> >>
> >> no, I don't read screeds of cut and paste crap that you don't understand
> >
> >Go tell DEFRA it's "crap", and let us know what their response is.
> >
> >> >> >> they were planted where there was never any woodland, because the
> >> >> >> land was mudflat when the tide finally left
> >> >> >> The native flora before agriculture was mudflat
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 'The region's coast includes the Humber estuary
> >> >>
> >> >> no it doesn't
> >> >
> >> > So where are you exactly?
> >
> >Well?
> >
> >> >> deal with the real world,
> >> >
> >> > I am.
> >>
> >> then why did you say the humber estury is in Cumbria
> >
> >I didn't.  I don't know whether you're in Yorkshire or Cumbria.
> >
> >What I was showing you is that mudflats are important habitat.
> >
> >Cumbria..
> >
> >'The Solway Coast is a tide-washed estuary between southwest
> >Scotland and northwest Cumbria. Mud flats and marsh are
> >created by the narrowing of Solway Firth, the bore tides and
> >strong currents, and the flat land.
> >..
> >Diverse animal and bird life inhabit all areas of the Solway Coast.
> >Thyme, spiny restharrow, yellow kidney vetch and pale blue
> >harebells nestle in the sand dunes while skylark and barn owls
> >fly overhead. Wading birds such as lapwing, oystercatcher,
> >and curlew cover the sands at low tide.
> >..'
> >Farm fields and hedgerows extend over what was forest land
> >until the 1400s.
> >..'
> >http://www.thecumbriadirectory.com/Cumbria_Countryside/Cumbria_Coast/Solway_Coast/Solway_Coast.php
> >
>
> I make that about 4-0 to you. You're already into the second round and
> it's the first match of the season. ;-)

Running rings around them really.  They're absolutely useless!

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:18:24 -0000, "Jim Webster"
 wrote:

>
>"pearl"  wrote in message 
>news:fljffc$lp7$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> "Jim Webster"  wrote in message 
>> news:5u4qhfF1gggelU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "pearl"  wrote in message
>>> news:flj6ml$5r4$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> > "Jim Webster"  wrote in message
>>> > news:5u4ip7F1gbqdrU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >>
>>> >> "pearl"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:fliq3i$es1$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>> >>
>>> >> >> then why did you say the humber estury is in Cumbria
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I didn't.  I don't know whether you're in Yorkshire or Cumbria.
>>> >>
>>> >> then you should have asked first
>>> >
>>> > You should have said from the outset "around here in ........".
>>>
>>> seeing as you were told in a previous post, (the thread where you refused 
>>> to
>>> say what exactly your protein sources were because "you'd posted it 
>>> before")
>>> you were told
>>
>> But I've seen Yorkshire mentioned in your posts quite often.
>>
>
>funnily enough I've mentioned the US as well but I don't live there
>
>> Every plant food contains protein.
>
>eat a lot of grass then?
>
>>
>>> >> rather than pasting irrelevent screeds of stuff.
>>> >
>>> > All of the information posted is relevent to the argument.
>>> >
>>> exactly how is the details of the Duddon estury relevent to our land?
>>>
>>> we don't farm on an estuary
>>
>> You said "round here"... hedgerows planted on mudflats..
>
>read the words
>rubbish
>round here they were planted where there was never any woodland, because the
>land was mudflat when the tide finally left
>The native flora before agriculture was mudflat
>
>
>basically you made the rather silly comment
>"Hedgerows are the scant remnants of native British flora/habitat"
>
>There are estates round here that still have the invoices for planting the 
>first hedges in the area

I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!

Oaf!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
news:j4iqn39952l877dse0rfkl2qk9nckolrul@4ax.com...
>
> I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
> recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!

Hedgerows aren't natural are they?  I think, by definition, they are human 
designed and planted to create a fence or border.

M

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:44:10 -0600, "Michelle Masters" 
wrote:

>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
>news:j4iqn39952l877dse0rfkl2qk9nckolrul@4ax.com...
>>
>> I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
>> recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!
>
>Hedgerows aren't natural are they?  I think, by definition, they are human 
>designed and planted to create a fence or border.

You miss the point. Read the thread from the beginning fat bird, if
you're going to try and kiss your chums arses!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
news:vjjqn3pm9gg7ubafarl1pd596t6qphu0tv@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:44:10 -0600, "Michelle Masters" 
>>>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message
>>> I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
>>> recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!
>>
>>Hedgerows aren't natural are they?  I think, by definition, they are human
>>designed and planted to create a fence or border.
>
> You miss the point. Read the thread from the beginning fat bird, if
> you're going to try and kiss your chums arses!

I don't have to read a whole thread to question why you called a hedgerow 
natural.  You are the one that called it "perfectly natural".

M

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:51:38 -0600, "Michelle Masters" 
wrote:

>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
>news:vjjqn3pm9gg7ubafarl1pd596t6qphu0tv@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:44:10 -0600, "Michelle Masters" 
>>>>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message
>>>> I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
>>>> recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!
>>>
>>>Hedgerows aren't natural are they?  I think, by definition, they are human
>>>designed and planted to create a fence or border.
>>
>> You miss the point. Read the thread from the beginning fat bird, if
>> you're going to try and kiss your chums arses!
>
>I don't have to read a whole thread to question why you called a hedgerow 
>natural.  You are the one that called it "perfectly natural".

Then go away fat bird you're out of your depth!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message news:vjjqn3pm9gg7ubafarl1pd596t6qphu0tv@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:44:10 -0600, "Michelle Masters" 
> wrote:
>
> >"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message
> >news:j4iqn39952l877dse0rfkl2qk9nckolrul@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> I have invoices for planting my perfectly natural hedgerow quite
> >> recently, and not a farmed animal in sight!
> >
> >Hedgerows aren't natural are they?  I think, by definition, they are human
> >designed and planted to create a fence or border.
>
> You miss the point. Read the thread from the beginning fat bird, if
> you're going to try and kiss your chums arses!

As if it wasn't already clearly apparent, here's an analogy which
illustrates the utter absurdity of their 'defence': * Moody, jim and
co. live in the family country pile which has been handed down
for countless generations.  Along we come and decide that the plot
is the perfect place to plant a fruit orchard.  So we start knocking
down the walls until all that's left is one small room that eventually
collapses as well.  Then we realise that it suits us to have a wall for
a shaded area and windbreak, so with the old rubble we construct
a long wall.  How dare they object to the destruction of the original
dwelling, when *we* built a nice wall for them all to shelter behind..

Sheeesh..!!!

"pearl"  wrote in message 
news:fljn6n$40j$1@reader01.news.esat.net...

> As if it wasn't already clearly apparent, here's an analogy which
> illustrates the utter absurdity of their 'defence': * Moody, jim and
> co. live in the family country pile which has been handed down
> for countless generations.  Along we come and decide that the plot
> is the perfect place to plant a fruit orchard.  So we start knocking
> down the walls until all that's left is one small room that eventually
> collapses as well.  Then we realise that it suits us to have a wall for
> a shaded area and windbreak, so with the old rubble we construct
> a long wall.  How dare they object to the destruction of the original
> dwelling, when *we* built a nice wall for them all to shelter behind..
>
> Sheeesh..!!!

the analogy is as flawed as the rest of your logic

in our case there were coastal grasslands that never had trees because of 
the salt, and hedges were planted for the grazing livestock
which bit of that can you not understand
Jim Webster

On Friday, in article 
     jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk "Jim Webster" wrote:

> "Rudy Canoza"  wrote in message 
> news:13nqv3vfejnjf6e@corp.supernews.com...
>  >
> > lesley ought to be embarrassed about her beliefs, because they are 100% 
> > crackpot bullshit.  lesley believes in a superior race of "inner earth 
> > beings" - non-human - who supposedly live deep in the ground under an 
> > dormant volcano in northern California.  See http://tinyurl.com/ax9bm.
> 
> yes thanks for the link, I remember about then she was spouting about Mt. 
> Shasta and how strange lights were still seen from it, and I pointed out it 
> was a major skiing centre, what did she expect ;-)

One of the major US sightings of a UFO, that did a lot to trigger the 
frenzy of the 1960s, was in New England. Jim MacDonald has a detailed 
account and analysis at

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009378.html#009378

The guy, unlike some of the people who hyped the case, knows the 
territory. He knows what you see from the road.

The people who saw the UFO were tired, and didn't know the road.

-- 
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

On the horizon, a carrier task force of the Salvation Navy was 
turning into the wind, preparing to launch Zeppelins.