Bird Flu is Back
Posted 13 November 2007

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_factory/ALL/1693//
Statement on the latest Avian Influenza outbreak from Animal Aid
Statements of shock and dismay will greet the announcement of another
outbreak of avian influenza – this time in Diss, Norfolk. Now is the
time for the public to wake up to the underlying causes of bird flu
and the whole range of devastating diseases afflicting animal farming.
Still on the news agenda are panic measures relating to foot and
mouth, bluetongue and bovine TB. In the background are continuing
worries about salmonella, E. coli, campylobacter and swine fever. The
common theme? The callous mass production and ‘processing’ of millions
of sentient animals.

It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
diseases. Turkeys are kept, from days after birth, in windowless sheds
– thousands packed together, standing in their own filth. Many will
die during the brief growing cycle, rotting where they fall. These
animals never see the light of day or smell fresh air but are deprived
of everything that makes life tolerable. Disease, broken bones and
heart attacks are commonplace. Incredibly, poultry is still promoted
as a healthy alternative to red meat. The reality is that anyone who
eats the flesh of these unfortunate animals runs the risk of becoming
ill as well.













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"Gloria"  wrote in message
news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
> diseases.

Wild birds get it as well.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
 wrote:

>
>"Gloria"  wrote in message
>news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
>> diseases.
>
>Wild birds get it as well.
>

But we don't eat those or farm them.











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Gloria wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>  wrote:
> 
>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
>>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
>>> diseases.
>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>
> 
> But we don't eat those or farm them.
> 
>

So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the 
animals at all.


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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:32:36 GMT, Jette 
wrote:

>Gloria wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
>>>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
>>>> diseases.
>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>
>> 
>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>> 
>>
>
>So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the 
>animals at all.

It's all about US and the ANIMALS. If we were all veggie we wouldn't
have any of these problems brought on by filthy farming practice.











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"Jette"  wrote in message
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> Gloria wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> "Gloria"  wrote in message
> >> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
> >>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
> >>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
> >>> diseases.
> >> Wild birds get it as well.
> >>
> >
> > But we don't eat those or farm them.

^ I didn't write that last line.

> >
> >
>
> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
> animals at all.
>

and you assume far too much about people you have never met.

"Gloria"  wrote in message
news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
> Bird Flu is Back
> Posted 13 November 2007
>
> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_factory/ALL/1693//
> Statement on the latest Avian Influenza outbreak from Animal Aid
> Statements of shock and dismay will greet the announcement of another
> outbreak of avian influenza - this time in Diss, Norfolk. Now is the
> time for the public to wake up to the underlying causes of bird flu
> and the whole range of devastating diseases afflicting animal farming.


Just for info... The current outbreak is at a free range farm...

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1683418,00.html?imw=Y
"The farm, Redgrave Park, is a free-range facility situated near a wetlands
that is a refuge for geese, ducks and other wild birds."

Other free range facilities will probably have to keep their birds indoors
to prevent further spread.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:00:30 -0000, "CWatters"
 wrote:

>
>"Gloria"  wrote in message
>news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>> Bird Flu is Back
>> Posted 13 November 2007
>>
>> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/pr_factory/ALL/1693//
>> Statement on the latest Avian Influenza outbreak from Animal Aid
>> Statements of shock and dismay will greet the announcement of another
>> outbreak of avian influenza - this time in Diss, Norfolk. Now is the
>> time for the public to wake up to the underlying causes of bird flu
>> and the whole range of devastating diseases afflicting animal farming.
>
>
>Just for info... The current outbreak is at a free range farm...

Dumped in a field with no cover or protection from the elements. Fed
poor quality food, drugs etc to enhance growth in a few weeks before
slaughter, which usually results in diseased birds reaching the food
chain before the diseases have a chance to be seen outwardly.

You pays your money..













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On Nov 13, 1:14 pm, Gloria  wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:32:36 GMT, Jette 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Gloria wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
> >>  wrote:
>
> >>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
> >>>news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
> >>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
> >>>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
> >>>> diseases.
> >>> Wild birds get it as well.
>
> >> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>
> >So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
> >animals at all.
>
> It's all about US and the ANIMALS. If we were all veggie we wouldn't
> have any of these problems brought on by filthy farming practice.
>
>

uk.business.agriculture, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,
talk.politics.animals, uk.environment.conservation,
uk.rec.birdwatching, uk.rec.gardening, uk.politics.animals
  Scheese woman!

No, we would just have permanent rotating urine/feces born diseases
since no one would be controlling the wild critters pissing and
shatting on our growing veggies. Or are you
suggesting we take it all indoors?

In reply to Gloria (enquires@urfreesim.co.uk) who wrote this in 
rq4kj3dd3dt32puj15kmnipb2f9qmagb9f@4ax.com, I, Marvo, say :

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:32:36 GMT, Jette 
> wrote:
>
>> Gloria wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside
>>>>> crowded, filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level
>>>>> of infectious diseases.
>>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
>> animals at all.
>
> It's all about US and the ANIMALS. If we were all veggie we wouldn't
> have any of these problems brought on by filthy farming practice.
>
Brilliant. We could build houses on all that farmland.

Are you familiar with the paradigm in which someone is so up themselves 
about something that they want everyone else to agree with them, at all 
costs?

There have been a few in recent history, one notable one was known as Herr 
Fuhrer of the Third Reich. He was a veggie, too.

Is there anything else you're intolerant of?

[goes off for a Pizza Hut Spicy Meat Feast, deep pan, with salad]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:36:53 -0000, "Uncle Marvo"
 wrote:

>In reply to Gloria (enquires@urfreesim.co.uk) who wrote this in 
>rq4kj3dd3dt32puj15kmnipb2f9qmagb9f@4ax.com, I, Marvo, say :
>
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:32:36 GMT, Jette 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gloria wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside
>>>>>> crowded, filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level
>>>>>> of infectious diseases.
>>>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
>>> animals at all.
>>
>> It's all about US and the ANIMALS. If we were all veggie we wouldn't
>> have any of these problems brought on by filthy farming practice.
>>
>Brilliant. We could build houses on all that farmland.
>
>Are you familiar with the paradigm in which
>
>There have been a few in recent history, one notable one was known as Herr 
>Fuhrer of the Third Reich. He was a veggie, too.

and the only teetotaler in Munich.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler
-- 

Martin

In reply to Martin (me@address.invalid) who wrote this in 
7jvlj3pjf16sfdl5o8g4aqf7n802odocui@4ax.com, I, Marvo, say :

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:36:53 -0000, "Uncle Marvo"
>  wrote:
>
>> In reply to Gloria (enquires@urfreesim.co.uk) who wrote this in
>> rq4kj3dd3dt32puj15kmnipb2f9qmagb9f@4ax.com, I, Marvo, say :
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:32:36 GMT, Jette 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gloria wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside
>>>>>>> crowded, filthy factory farms without them suffering a high
>>>>>>> level of infectious diseases.
>>>>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
>>>> animals at all.
>>>
>>> It's all about US and the ANIMALS. If we were all veggie we wouldn't
>>> have any of these problems brought on by filthy farming practice.
>>>
>> Brilliant. We could build houses on all that farmland.
>>
>> Are you familiar with the paradigm in which
>>
>> There have been a few in recent history, one notable one was known
>> as Herr Fuhrer of the Third Reich. He was a veggie, too.
>
> and the only teetotaler in Munich.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler

Blimey, that makes interesting reading. I knew he ws a screaming nutter, but 
a veggie who occasionally eats squab (and I had to look that up) and liver 
sausage?

Barking. Glad he lost now.

One thing I found fascinating about Adolf is the fact that he hated smoking, 
but used to get people in a room and deliberately make them go without a fag 
for a long while to get them disadvantaged. One needs to bear in mind that 
smoking was pretty much the norm then.

You wouldn't catch anyone doing anything that underhanded these days, would 
you?

CWatters wrote:
> "Jette"  wrote in message
> news:ERn_i.47116$c_1.40729@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Gloria wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
>>>>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
>>>>> diseases.
>>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>>
>>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
> 
> ^ I didn't write that last line.
> 
>>>
>> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
>> animals at all.
>>
> 
> and you assume far too much about people you have never met.
> 
>
If you note I was responding to the troll "Gloria", who is more about 
scoring points than actually caring about the animals it is supposed 
to be defending.


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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:24:39 GMT, Jette 
wrote:

>CWatters wrote:
>> "Jette"  wrote in message
>> news:ERn_i.47116$c_1.40729@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Gloria wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:29:28 -0000, "CWatters"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Gloria"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:aaqjj35v1o21vmlfumodatjrfqeh7segcc@4ax.com...
>>>>>> It is naive to imagine that we can incarcerate animals inside crowded,
>>>>>> filthy factory farms without them suffering a high level of infectious
>>>>>> diseases.
>>>>> Wild birds get it as well.
>>>>>
>>>> But we don't eat those or farm them.
>> 
>> ^ I didn't write that last line.
>> 
>>>>
>>> So you show your true colours - you don't really care about the
>>> animals at all.
>>>
>> 
>> and you assume far too much about people you have never met.
>> 
>>
>If you note I was responding to the troll "Gloria", who is more about 
>scoring points than actually caring about the animals it is supposed 
>to be defending.

Don't worry it's not the education that will kill you!













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"Jette"  wrote in message
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> If you note I was responding to the troll "Gloria", who is more about
> scoring points than actually caring about the animals it is supposed
> to be defending.
>

oops sorry my mistake.