I finally found a distro that I can cope with. I have much to learn, but 
so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet

"none" <""root\"@(none)"> wrote in message 
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>I finally found a distro that I can cope with. I have much to learn, but so 
>far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet

I'm very proud of ya ;o)

On Oct 11, 2:07 pm, none <""root\"@(none)"> wrote:
> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. I have much to learn, but
> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet

Good luck!
Isla

none <""root\"@(none)"> wrote:

> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. I have much to learn, but
> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet

Hello :-)

Usually, one would post a test message to alt.test or similar.

Not that I'm complaining that you decided to post here, just curious.  I
take it you feel this newsgroup has something to offer you?

One thing, though - you're not posting from the root account on your
Linux box?  It's not a wise idea to be doing that.  Your normal user
account that you use for doing things shouldn't be the root account.
Only log in as root when you need to do maintenance - and don't use it
at all if you're going on-line.

Rowland.

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On 2008-10-11, none <""> wrote:
> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. 

Which one?

> I have much to learn, but 
> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet

Hello  :))

(You might want to think of a better email address to put in your From 
header).

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Whiskers  wrote in 
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> On 2008-10-11, none <""> wrote:
>> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. 
> 
> Which one?
> 
>> I have much to learn, but 
>> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet
> 
> Hello  :))
> 
> (You might want to think of a better email address to put in your From 
> header).
> 

It was me (back in Windows at the moment). When I find a more easily 
configurable newsreader that I like I'll sort out the from header.

The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I could 
manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very helpful people in 
the forums.

Chris

-- 
Don’t worry about avoiding temptation as you grow older, it will avoid you.

Winston Churchill

"csaenemy"  wrote in message 
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> Whiskers  wrote in
> news:slrngf90n1.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
>
>> On 2008-10-11, none <""> wrote:
>>> I finally found a distro that I can cope with.
>>
>> Which one?
>>
>>> I have much to learn, but
>>> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet
>>
>> Hello  :))
>>
>> (You might want to think of a better email address to put in your From
>> header).
>>
>
> It was me (back in Windows at the moment). When I find a more easily
> configurable newsreader that I like I'll sort out the from header.
>
> The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I could
> manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very helpful people 
> in
> the forums.
>
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Don't worry about avoiding temptation as you grow older, it will avoid 
> you.
>
> Winston Churchill

Hi there Csaenemy,
I've been using Ubuntu for around the last 2 years on and off, switching 
between that and WinVista (pants) whenever I've needed to.
The free install disk has 3 install options: Live, where the distro runs 
only from the CD, Full install or the much more user friendly option of 
installing it into a Windows folder on yer C:\ drive, thus allowing you to 
uninstall Ubuntu by using the the Windows uninstall facility.
Using Vista I am told that I cannot use the Aero desktop, because my 
Graphics card is too weedy, But Ubuntu allows me to run all the desktop 
goodies (which are considerable). What I don't really understand is how 
Microsoft can charge the astronomical price it does only to demand that 
users upgrade their hardware! Whereas, Ubuntu does all Vista can (and much, 
much more) using less resources and lower spec hardware. Plus all the 
software is free - a couple of clicks and Bob's yer uncle - 1000's and 
1000's of programs to do absolutely anything you want, just waiting for you 
to click on it and download.

Go and have a squint at this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ

Stay well,
Prot.

On 2008-10-14, csaenemy  wrote:
> Whiskers  wrote in 
> news:slrngf90n1.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net:
>
>> On 2008-10-11, none <""> wrote:
>>> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. 
>> 
>> Which one?
>> 
>>> I have much to learn, but 
>>> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet
>> 
>> Hello  :))
>> 
>> (You might want to think of a better email address to put in your From 
>> header).
>> 
>
> It was me (back in Windows at the moment). When I find a more easily 
> configurable newsreader that I like I'll sort out the from header.

I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established GUI 
newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it wasn't at 
all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.

> The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I could 
> manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very helpful people in 
> the forums.

Good.  That's an interesting distro (but I'm a Mandriva user at present).  
Take a look at uk.comp.os.linux as a general Linux discussion forum - 
there are users of a variety of distros posting there.  The main thing is 
to have fun with Linux  :))

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"Prot"  wrote in 
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> Go and have a squint at this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
> 

Very pretty, but a million miles from where I am at the moment. Give me 
time to sort out the basics first.


-- 
Don’t worry about avoiding temptation as you grow older, it will avoid you.

Winston Churchill

Whiskers  wrote in
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> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established GUI 
> newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it wasn't
> at all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.

Yes, the browser part seems pretty good, but I'm working on getting Opera 
plugins to function as that's my browser of choice. I'd prefer to get away 
from web based mail and newsreaders though
 
>> The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I
>> could manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very
>> helpful people in the forums.
> 
> Good.  That's an interesting distro (but I'm a Mandriva user at
> present).  Take a look at uk.comp.os.linux as a general Linux
> discussion forum - there are users of a variety of distros posting
> there.  The main thing is to have fun with Linux  :))

It is fun, but as a complete noob, I'm dipping in and out until I can make 
more of my regular programs functon (or at least find compatible 
equivalents)
> 



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Winston Churchill

On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:51 +0100, Whiskers wrote:

> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established GUI 
> newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it wasn't at 
> all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.
> 

I like Pan but I now use evolution which does me fine for both usenet
and email, including imap which many emailers don't handle very well.


> > The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I could 
> > manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very helpful people in 
> > the forums.
> 
> Good.  That's an interesting distro (but I'm a Mandriva user at present).  
> Take a look at uk.comp.os.linux as a general Linux discussion forum - 
> there are users of a variety of distros posting there.  The main thing is 
> to have fun with Linux  :))
> 

I found puppy quite hard to use but that might just be me. Also it seems
to store the file system strangely. I've found ubuntu to be by far the
best and usable distro although even they leave the new user with some
interesting puzzles! I've also tried suse but don't like that one at
all.

But linux is fun, there's no doubt about that!

Fergus

On 2008-10-14, Fergus  wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 17:51 +0100, Whiskers wrote:
>
>> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
>> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established GUI 
>> newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it wasn't at 
>> all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.
>> 
>
> I like Pan but I now use evolution which does me fine for both usenet
> and email, including imap which many emailers don't handle very well.

I'm using Claws Mail for email (including IMAP with GMX.com) but its 
usenet features are too basic for my taste.  Kmail is a good email client, 
but I found Evolution too complex.

>> > The distro is Puppy Linux. This is the first one I've tried that I
>> > could manage to get online with, and there seem to be some very helpful
>> > people in the forums.
>> 
>> Good.  That's an interesting distro (but I'm a Mandriva user at present).  
>> Take a look at uk.comp.os.linux as a general Linux discussion forum - 
>> there are users of a variety of distros posting there.  The main thing is 
>> to have fun with Linux  :))
>> 
>
> I found puppy quite hard to use but that might just be me. Also it seems
> to store the file system strangely. 

It's designed to be very small and quick - it can be installed on a USB 
'stick' and load the entire system into RAM when booted.  It will run 
on quite small or old systems, too.  It may not take too kindly to being 
'customised', as a result of that design.

> I've found ubuntu to be by far the
> best and usable distro although even they leave the new user with some
> interesting puzzles! I've also tried suse but don't like that one at
> all.

Mandriva is the one that clicks with me; I think it's probably the most 
newbie-friendly of them all, yet can satisfy 'power users' too.

> But linux is fun, there's no doubt about that!

Well, when you get it right ... <G>

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On 2008-10-14, csaenemy  wrote:
> Whiskers  wrote in
> news:slrngf9jgo.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net: 
>
>> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
>> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established GUI 
>> newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it wasn't
>> at all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.
>
> Yes, the browser part seems pretty good, but I'm working on getting Opera 
> plugins to function as that's my browser of choice. I'd prefer to get away 
> from web based mail and newsreaders though

Opera plugins?  I don't know if Opera can be installed on Puppy at all.

[...]


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Whiskers  wrote in
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> On 2008-10-14, csaenemy  wrote:
>> Whiskers  wrote in
>> news:slrngf9jgo.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net: 
>>
>>> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
>>> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established
>>> GUI newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it
>>> wasn't at all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.
>>
>> Yes, the browser part seems pretty good, but I'm working on getting
>> Opera plugins to function as that's my browser of choice. I'd prefer
>> to get away from web based mail and newsreaders though
> 
> Opera plugins?  I don't know if Opera can be installed on Puppy at
> all. 
> 
> [...]
> 
> 

It works ok, but for example if I go to youtube I see just a grey rectangle 
where there should be media playing

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Don’t worry about avoiding temptation as you grow older, it will avoid you.

Winston Churchill

On 2008-10-15, csaenemy  wrote:
> Whiskers  wrote in
> news:slrngfa060.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net: 
>
>> On 2008-10-14, csaenemy  wrote:
>>> Whiskers  wrote in
>>> news:slrngf9jgo.bh1.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net: 
>>>
>>>> I haven't used Seamonkey, but I think the usenet part is based on 
>>>> Thunderbird, isn't it?  Knode and Pan are the longest-established
>>>> GUI newsreaders for Linux.  I took a look at XPN a while ago and it
>>>> wasn't at all bad.  The author reads news.software.readers.
>>>
>>> Yes, the browser part seems pretty good, but I'm working on getting
>>> Opera plugins to function as that's my browser of choice. I'd prefer
>>> to get away from web based mail and newsreaders though
>> 
>> Opera plugins?  I don't know if Opera can be installed on Puppy at
>> all. 
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> 
>
> It works ok, but for example if I go to youtube I see just a grey rectangle 
> where there should be media playing

That's "Flash".  If you have that installed on your Puppy system, you'll 
have to tell Opera where it is.  The plugin path on my Opera is 

    /usr/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Opera Tools - Preferences - Content - Enable plug-ins - Plug-in options

If Flash isn't installed, either get the Puppy package for it if there is 
one, or go to 
<http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash>.
The Linux installer there should work, I think - Opera can use the same 
plugin as "Firefox/Mozilla".  The Puppy forums or the Opera newsgroups 
might be worth looking to if you want help.

There is a Free and Open Source Flash player called Gnash, which has 
plugins for Firefox and Konqueror.  I don't know if it works with Opera, 
but I have it working with Firefox here.  There are some Flash web pages 
which don't work properly, or at all, with Gnash - the Gnash programmers
are obliged to reverse-engineer every change in the closed-source software 
so there's inevitably a lag.  I haven't got Gnash to work with YouTube.

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none wrote:
> I finally found a distro that I can cope with. I have much to learn, but 
> so far so good. This is my first attempt at posting on usenet
I've been busy with other things, and have only just come back to this. 
At least my name should display properly now.
Incidentally, I tried Ubuntu Linux, but could not make my wireless 
connection work. It's a shame, because it looks quite easy to use and 
the layout and filesystem is much closer to what I've been used to with 
Windows. I shall press on with Puppy, I am gradually getting used to it 
and it's incredibly fast.

On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:54 +0000, csaenemy wrote:

> Incidentally, I tried Ubuntu Linux, but could not make my wireless 
> connection work. It's a shame, because it looks quite easy to use and 
> the layout and filesystem is much closer to what I've been used to with 
> Windows. I shall press on with Puppy, I am gradually getting used to it 
> and it's incredibly fast.

I'm surprised about the wireless connection on ubuntu. I was expecting
problems but I put in a usb dongle and after a half a minute or so and
doing nothing else, I could click on the network symbol on the top right
of the desktop and it gave me the choice of connecting to my network or
various ones of my neighbours'. I typed in the key and it's worked
reliably ever since. I did the same thing with a different manufacturers
dongle and that worked fine as well.

Puppy is nice but I find it a bit too limited.

I've just downloaded "dreamlinux" to see what that's like but I suspect
I'll stay with my "Hardy Heron".

Fergus

Fergus wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:54 +0000, csaenemy wrote:
> 
>> Incidentally, I tried Ubuntu Linux, but could not make my wireless 
>> connection work. It's a shame, because it looks quite easy to use and 
>> the layout and filesystem is much closer to what I've been used to with 
>> Windows. I shall press on with Puppy, I am gradually getting used to it 
>> and it's incredibly fast.
> 
> I'm surprised about the wireless connection on ubuntu. I was expecting
> problems but I put in a usb dongle and after a half a minute or so and
> doing nothing else, I could click on the network symbol on the top right
> of the desktop and it gave me the choice of connecting to my network or
> various ones of my neighbours'. I typed in the key and it's worked
> reliably ever since. I did the same thing with a different manufacturers
> dongle and that worked fine as well.
> 
> Puppy is nice but I find it a bit too limited.
> 
> I've just downloaded "dreamlinux" to see what that's like but I suspect
> I'll stay with my "Hardy Heron".
> 
> Fergus
> 
I identify my router, I type in the key, it searches for a while and 
then the whole thing seizes up and I have to reboot. Very frustrating.