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date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:27:26 +0100,    group: uk.media.tv.sky        back       
Burnt Viewing Card   
Hi,

I have a Sky+ HD box (Amstrad) and just went to watch a film I
recorded the other night and it asked me for my PIN. It must have been
something to do with me attempting to watch it before the watershead
because I've never been asked for my PIN before. Anyway I knew that
the PIN should be the last 4 digits of my card so I went to pull it
out. It was stuck and I had to pull quite hard for it to come loose.
On inspection the top of the card was brown as it was slightly burnt
above the chip (the chip on the underside looked fine). The card was
also very hot at that point.

I'd come to the conclusion that the card was stuck because it had
melted slightly to the inside of the reader. I've only had the card a
couple of months (it's the new white one) so I'm a bit worried about
the long term functioning of my box.

After I put the card back in the video images were all messed up (all
green and pink lines (although the EPG was fine). This worried me
greatly but unplugging it for 30 secs fixed it.

My box is pretty well ventilated. I do have it sitting ontop of my
home cinema amp but this is rarely turned on so any overheating
shouldn't be caused by this.

Anyone else want to take a look at their cards and tell me if this is
normal!

Cheers.

Craig

--
The Zero ST
date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:27:26 +0100   author:   Craig Coope

Re: Burnt Viewing Card   
"Craig Coope"  wrote in message 
news:0cb3e59jkv93a6k5bt6sa5frhuta64a9bi@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a Sky+ HD box (Amstrad) and just went to watch a film I
> recorded the other night and it asked me for my PIN. It must have been
> something to do with me attempting to watch it before the watershead
> because I've never been asked for my PIN before. Anyway I knew that
> the PIN should be the last 4 digits of my card so I went to pull it
> out. It was stuck and I had to pull quite hard for it to come loose.
> On inspection the top of the card was brown as it was slightly burnt
> above the chip (the chip on the underside looked fine). The card was
> also very hot at that point.
>
> I'd come to the conclusion that the card was stuck because it had
> melted slightly to the inside of the reader. I've only had the card a
> couple of months (it's the new white one) so I'm a bit worried about
> the long term functioning of my box.
>
> After I put the card back in the video images were all messed up (all
> green and pink lines (although the EPG was fine). This worried me
> greatly but unplugging it for 30 secs fixed it.
>
> My box is pretty well ventilated. I do have it sitting ontop of my
> home cinema amp but this is rarely turned on so any overheating
> shouldn't be caused by this.
>
> Anyone else want to take a look at their cards and tell me if this is
> normal!
>


A bit of an obvious answer but phone them up and demand a change of box on 
the grounds of a fire hazard.  If there was enough heat to melt/burn the 
card, then there could be enough heat for fire.

MC
date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:03:46 -0000   author:   MC

Re: Burnt Viewing Card   
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:03:46 -0000, "MC"  wrote:

>A bit of an obvious answer but phone them up and demand a change of box on 
>the grounds of a fire hazard.  If there was enough heat to melt/burn the 
>card, then there could be enough heat for fire.

I don't think "slightly browned plastic" counts as "melted or burnt
card", really. Most plastic (and hence most viewing cards) will change
colour after years inside even a very modest source of heat.

--
date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:40:46 GMT   author:   (Zero Tolerance)

Re: Burnt Viewing Card   
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:40:46 GMT, Zero@0spam.want.no.spam.zzz (Zero
Tolerance) wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:03:46 -0000, "MC"  wrote:
>
>>A bit of an obvious answer but phone them up and demand a change of box on 
>>the grounds of a fire hazard.  If there was enough heat to melt/burn the 
>>card, then there could be enough heat for fire.
>
>I don't think "slightly browned plastic" counts as "melted or burnt
>card", really. Most plastic (and hence most viewing cards) will change
>colour after years inside even a very modest source of heat.

To be fair it was me that said it had melted slightly because it was
"stuck" in the box but after removal it doesn't actually look melted.
I've only had this card a couple of months.

--
The Zero ST
date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:27:37 +0000   author:   Craig Coope

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