Alec Baldwin played the part of Parker, Phoebe's strange boyfriend.  He was 
also in the film Notting Hill as Anna Scott's boyfriend but does not appear 
in the credits for the film.

Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits?  Is it a mistake or would there 
be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 00:45:22, Liz J 
<thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net@?.?.invalid> wrote in 
uk.media.tv.friends :

>Alec Baldwin played the part of Parker, Phoebe's strange boyfriend.  He was
>also in the film Notting Hill as Anna Scott's boyfriend but does not appear
>in the credits for the film.
>
>Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits?  Is it a mistake or would there
>be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?

As long as they get their pay-cheque, I doubt they are too bothered. :)
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

Liz J wrote:
> Alec Baldwin played the part of Parker, Phoebe's strange boyfriend. He was 
> also in the film Notting Hill as Anna Scott's boyfriend but
> does not appear in the credits for the film.
>
> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits?  Is it a mistake or
> would there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the
> credits?

Sometimes there is a reason.  In "Hellboy", the character of Abe Sapien was 
played by Doug Jones but was voiced by David Hyde Pierce (aka "Niles 
Crane").  As he is the more famous, this would have put Hyde Pierce's name 
above that of Jones in the credits. Out of respect for Jones' performance, 
Hyde Pierce refused a credit for the film.

Other actors may find the experience of being in the film to be a bad one 
and wish to dissociate themselves from it. John Geilgud, Peter O'Toole and 
Helen Mirren all appeared in "Caligula" expecting it to be a slightly racy 
historical epic. When they film was re-edited as a pronographic movie, they 
all attempted to get their names removed from the credits.  The original 
script was written by Gore Vidal but the script of the final cut bore no 
relationship to his script. Vidal managed to get his name removed from the 
credits.

This also happens with directors. If you ever see a film directed by "Alan 
Smithee" it means that the film has been altered so much by the producers 
and studio execs that the original director no longer considers it his or 
her work and so has applied to the Directors Guild of America to have his 
name removed from the project.


In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the one with 
David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name than Hugh Grant in 
the US in 1999. Even though he only played a cameo role, SAG rules would 
have required him to be credited above Grant.



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In article ,
"Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:

> Alec Baldwin played the part of Parker, Phoebe's strange boyfriend.

Nice leverage to make your post on-topic, Liz. :)


> He was also in the film Notting Hill as Anna Scott's boyfriend but does
> not appear in the credits for the film.

> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or would
> there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?

This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.

If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
*seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.


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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 18:01:00, Tennant Stuart  
wrote in uk.media.tv.friends :

>In article ,
>"Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:
>
>> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or would
>> there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?
>
>This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.
>
>If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
>*seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
>names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.

Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:Jdp7NrEs25sIFwrg@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 18:01:00, Tennant Stuart  
> wrote in uk.media.tv.friends :
>
>>In article ,
>>"Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or would
>>> there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?
>>
>>This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.
>>
>>If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
>>*seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
>>names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.
>
> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...
> -- 
> Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

that's just what I was thinking!  I have heard of Simon Callow but not the 
others.

> In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the one 
> with
> David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name than Hugh Grant in 
> the US in 1999. Even though he only played a cameo role, SAG rules would 
> have required him to be credited above Grant.
>
>
>
> -- 
 Interesting, Enzo.  Thanks

SAG?  Who are they and why do they get to dictate?  Wasn't it a British 
film?

Liz J wrote:
>> In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the
>> one with
>> David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name than Hugh
>> Grant in the US in 1999. Even though he only played a cameo role,
>> SAG rules would have required him to be credited above Grant.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Interesting, Enzo.  Thanks
>
> SAG?  Who are they and why do they get to dictate?

SAG are the Screen Actors' Guild. They get to dictate just about everything 
about a film shown in the US.

> Wasn't it a British film?

It was...  but if the distributors wish to show the film in the US they have 
to make sure it conforms with SAG rules.

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 at 23:53:26, Liz J 
<thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net@?.?.invalid> wrote in 
uk.media.tv.friends :
>
>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>news:Jdp7NrEs25sIFwrg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>
>>>If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
>>>*seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
>>>names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.
>>
>> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...
>
>that's just what I was thinking!  I have heard of Simon Callow but not the
>others.

Actually, I was wrong - I haven't heard of any of them. I was mistaking 
Callow for Cadell - hi de hi! :)
-- 
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message 
news:aHaf7DLnfQtIFwRb@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 at 23:53:26, Liz J 
> <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net@?.?.invalid> wrote in 
> uk.media.tv.friends :
>>
>>"Paul Hyett"  wrote in message
>>news:Jdp7NrEs25sIFwrg@blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
>>>>*seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
>>>>names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.
>>>
>>> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...
>>
>>that's just what I was thinking!  I have heard of Simon Callow but not the
>>others.
>
> Actually, I was wrong - I haven't heard of any of them. I was mistaking 
> Callow for Cadell - hi de hi! :)
> -- 
> Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

lol, so was I!!  I have just looked Callow up on IMDB and I don't think I 
would have noticed him in any of those things listed!  I had hi de hi in my 
mind when I saw the name.  The idiot manager who Gladys fancied, yes?

In article ,
"Enzo Matrix"  wrote:

> Sometimes there is a reason. In "Hellboy", the character of Abe Sapien
> was played by Doug Jones but was voiced by David Hyde Pierce (aka "Niles
> Crane"). As he is the more famous, this would have put Hyde Pierce's
> name above that of Jones in the credits. Out of respect for Jones'
> performance, Hyde Pierce refused a credit for the film.

> In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the one
> with David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name than Hugh
> Grant in the US in 1999. Even though he only played a cameo role, SAG
> rules would have required him to be credited above Grant.

Okay, so why were Ian Boo Khoo, Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, Michael Higgs,
Matthew Modine, Christian Simpson and Richard Woolfenden also uncredited?


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In article , Paul Hyett
 wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 18:01:00, Tennant Stuart 
> wrote in uk.media.tv.friends :

>> In article ,
>> "Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:

>>> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or would
>>> there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in the credits?

>> This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.

>> If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see that
>> *seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such well-known
>> names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.

> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...

Simon Callow is a celebrated thespian although to you he's probably just
the guy who got a funeral instead of four weddings. Omid Djalili had his
own show on BBC-1, and Matthew Modine has starred in many movies.


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> SAG?  Who are they and why do they get to dictate?

It's the Screen Actors Guild, a very powerful union.


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Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article ,
> "Enzo Matrix"  wrote:
>
>> Sometimes there is a reason. In "Hellboy", the character of Abe
>> Sapien was played by Doug Jones but was voiced by David Hyde Pierce
>> (aka "Niles Crane"). As he is the more famous, this would have put
>> Hyde Pierce's name above that of Jones in the credits. Out of
>> respect for Jones' performance, Hyde Pierce refused a credit for the
>> film.
>
>> In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the
>> one with David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name
>> than Hugh Grant in the US in 1999. Even though he only played a
>> cameo role, SAG rules would have required him to be credited above
>> Grant.
>
> Okay, so why were Ian Boo Khoo, Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, Michael
> Higgs, Matthew Modine, Christian Simpson and Richard Woolfenden also
> uncredited?

If *you* had appeared in a film with Hugh Grant, wouldn't you feel ashamed 
as well?  ;-)


-- 
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Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article , Paul Hyett
>  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 18:01:00, Tennant Stuart
>>  wrote in uk.media.tv.friends :
>
>>> In article ,
>>> "Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or
>>>> would there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in
>>>> the credits?
>
>>> This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.
>
>>> If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see
>>> that *seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such
>>> well-known names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.
>
>> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...
>
> Simon Callow is a celebrated thespian although to you he's probably
> just the guy who got a funeral instead of four weddings. Omid Djalili
> had his own show on BBC-1,

Which was desperately unfunny.  Djalili has one joke - about he fact that 
westerners are convinced that all Iranians are terrorists - and he uses it 
over and over again.

-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Liz J wrote:
> Alec Baldwin played the part of Parker, Phoebe's strange boyfriend.

He also got a namecheck in an episode shown on telly tonight.


-- 
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

In article , "Enzo Matrix"
 wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote:
>> In article ,
>> "Enzo Matrix"  wrote:

>>> Sometimes there is a reason. In "Hellboy", the character of Abe
>>> Sapien was played by Doug Jones but was voiced by David Hyde Pierce
>>> (aka "Niles Crane"). As he is the more famous, this would have put
>>> Hyde Pierce's name above that of Jones in the credits. Out of
>>> respect for Jones' performance, Hyde Pierce refused a credit for the
>>> film.

>>> In the case you mentioned it is probably a similar situation to the
>>> one with David Hyde Pierce above. Alec Baldwin was a bigger name
>>> than Hugh Grant in the US in 1999. Even though he only played a
>>> cameo role, SAG rules would have required him to be credited above
>>> Grant.

>> Okay, so why were Ian Boo Khoo, Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, Michael
>> Higgs, Matthew Modine, Christian Simpson and Richard Woolfenden also
>> uncredited?

> If *you* had appeared in a film with Hugh Grant, wouldn't you feel ashamed
> as well?  ;-)

LOL okay, but it proves my point that sometimes these things just happen.


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In article , "Enzo Matrix"
 wrote:

> Tennant Stuart wrote:
>> In article , Paul Hyett
>>  wrote:

>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 at 18:01:00, Tennant Stuart
>>>  wrote in uk.media.tv.friends :

>>>> In article ,
>>>> "Liz J" <thejordanschangethistoanatsignclara.net> wrote:

>>>>> Why wouldn't an actor appear in the credits? Is it a mistake or
>>>>> would there be a reason why an actor would not wish to appear in
>>>>> the credits?

>>>> This sort of thing happens all the while, with many different films.

>>>> If you check the IMDb entry for "Notting Hill (1999)", you'll see
>>>> that *seven*more* actors were also left uncredited, including such
>>>> well-known names as Simon Callow, Omid Djalili, and Matthew Modine.

>>> Right... so well known that I've only heard of one of the three...

>> Simon Callow is a celebrated thespian although to you he's probably
>> just the guy who got a funeral instead of four weddings. Omid Djalili
>> had his own show on BBC-1,

> Which was desperately unfunny. Djalili has one joke - about he fact that
> westerners are convinced that all Iranians are terrorists - and he uses
> it over and over again.

But at least you have heard of him. :)


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