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date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:59:15 +0000,    group: uk.local.southwest        back       
Leslie   
"Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your 
ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and 
the alien as well, may be refreshed."


-- 
True Christian™

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:59:15 +0000   author:   True Christian®

Re: Leslie   
On 18 Jan, 21:59, True Christian®  wrote:
> "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your
> ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and
> the alien as well, may be refreshed."
>
> --
> True Christian™
>
> http://www.landroverbaptist.org/

And Jesus H Christ said
" let there be light and you could see for miles.
Then he said let there be darkness and you couldn't see you hand in
front of your fucking face...............
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:18:43 -0800 (PST)   author:   John S

Re: Leslie   
John S wrote:
> On 18 Jan, 21:59, True Christian®  wrote:
>> "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your
>> ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and
>> the alien as well, may be refreshed."
>>
>> --
>> True Christian™
>>
>> http://www.landroverbaptist.org/
> 
> And Jesus H Christ said
> " let there be light and you could see for miles.
> Then he said let there be darkness and you couldn't see you hand in
> front of your fucking face...............
> 
If only he had said "Let there be low energy light" we might not have so many problems with global warming :)
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:23:36 +0000   author:   Cliff Ray

Re: Leslie   
Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL walked 
into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the lamp comes 
on :-))

Martin P

"Cliff Ray"  wrote in message 
news:-62dnYjbCOx0Nu7UnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@pipex.net...
John S wrote:
> On 18 Jan, 21:59, True Christian®  wrote:
>> "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your
>> ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and
>> the alien as well, may be refreshed."
>>
>> --
>> True Christian™
>>
>> http://www.landroverbaptist.org/
>
> And Jesus H Christ said
> " let there be light and you could see for miles.
> Then he said let there be darkness and you couldn't see you hand in
> front of your fucking face...............
>
If only he had said "Let there be low energy light" we might not have so
many problems with global warming :)
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000   author:   campingstoveman

Re: Leslie   
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000, "campingstoveman"
 wrote:

>Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL walked 
>into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the lamp comes 
>on :-))
>
>Martin P
>
That's usually when I get all religious....."Jeeezuz Feckin' Christ!!"

...That's if I don't say "Arsebiscuits!".

Regards,



-- 
Stephen Howard
Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:43:34 +0000   author:   Stephen Howard

Re: Leslie   
>
> > And Jesus H Christ said
> > " let there be light and you could see for miles.
> > Then he said let there be darkness and you couldn't see you hand in
> > front of your fucking face...............

And he said unto Moses "come forth" and the silly b*****d came fifth
and didn`t get a prize.

And verily the Lord said "smile,things could be worse",
So I smiled and lo and behold things got worse.
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:44:32 -0800 (PST)   author:   unknown

Re: Leslie   
Stephen Howard wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000, "campingstoveman"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL walked 
>> into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the lamp comes 
>> on :-))
>>
>> Martin P
>>
> That's usually when I get all religious....."Jeeezuz Feckin' Christ!!"
> 
> ...That's if I don't say "Arsebiscuits!".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 

There she lusted after her lovers whose genitals were like those of 
donkeys and whose emissions were like those of horses : Ezekiel 23:20
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:46:14 +0000   author:   Jimmy Riddle

Re: Leslie   
Stephen Howard wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000, "campingstoveman"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL walked 
>> into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the lamp comes 
>> on :-))
>>
>> Martin P
>>
> That's usually when I get all religious....."Jeeezuz Feckin' Christ!!"
> 
> ...That's if I don't say "Arsebiscuits!".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 

Where's uk.local.poland gone?
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:47:06 +0000   author:   Jimmy Riddle

Re: Leslie   
On 18 Jan, 22:47, Jimmy Riddle  wrote:

>
> Where's uk.local.poland gone?

Been deported as an illegal immigrant
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:51:51 -0800 (PST)   author:   John S

Re: Leslie   
Stephen Howard wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000, "campingstoveman"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL walked 
>> into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the lamp comes 
>> on :-))
>>
>> Martin P
>>
> That's usually when I get all religious....."Jeeezuz Feckin' Christ!!"
> 
> ...That's if I don't say "Arsebiscuits!".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
Didn't Arsebiscuits win the St Ledger ?
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:59:31 +0000   author:   Cliff Ray

Re: Leslie   
Cliff Ray  wrote:

>If only he had said "Let there be low energy light" we might not have so 
>many problems with global warming :)

Um, I'm curious: how many problems has GW caused you?

[fu set uk.rec.sheds]


-- 
Sleepalot   aa #1385
date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:15:16 +0000   author:   Sleepalot

Re: Leslie   
"True Christian®"  wrote in message 
news:4973a637$0$3340$6e1ede2f@read.cnntp.org...
> "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your 
> ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the 
> alien as well, may be refreshed."
>
>
> -- 
> True Christian™
>
> http://www.landoverbuggers.org/

It's all complete nonsense.

The ignorant superstitions of Bronze-Age Arabs.

Sometimes a child has an imaginary friend, but when adults
display such make-believe then it's time to call the men
in white coats.

-- 
Devout Atheist
date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:40:35 -0000   author:   Devout Atheist lid

Re: Leslie   
wrote in message 
news:3b0fa952-f5f8-4f3b-8c9c-1cd78d54afb4@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> > And Jesus H Christ said
>> > " let there be light and you could see for miles.
>> > Then he said let there be darkness and you couldn't see you hand in
>> > front of your fucking face...............
> And he said unto Moses "come forth" and the silly b*****d came fifth
> and didn`t get a prize.
> And verily the Lord said "smile,things could be worse",
> So I smiled and lo and behold things got worse.

And the reason they say, "amen" and not "awomen" is because
they sing hymns and not hers.
date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:42:17 -0000   author:   Devout Atheist lid

Re: Leslie   
"Jimmy Riddle"  wrote in message 
news:4973b16d$0$3339$6e1ede2f@read.cnntp.org...
> Stephen Howard wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:27:28 -0000, "campingstoveman"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL 
>>> walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor the 
>>> lamp comes on :-))
>>>
>>> Martin P
>>>
>> That's usually when I get all religious....."Jeeezuz Feckin' Christ!!"
>>
>> ...That's if I don't say "Arsebiscuits!".
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>
> Where's uk.local.poland gone?



Err, POLAND ??

Wavey Dave
date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:49:50 -0000   author:   Dave

Re: Leslie   
campingstoveman wrote:
> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL
> walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor
> the lamp comes on :-))
>

<Smug Mode>
Mine work properly
</SM>

-- 
Malc
R1100RS old and tatty

You laugh at me because I am different
I laugh at you because you are all the same
date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:46:38 GMT   author:   malc

Re: Leslie   
The message <yM4dl.22534$Sp5.2485@text.news.virginmedia.com>
from "malc"  contains these words:

> campingstoveman wrote:
> > Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL
> > walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor
> > the lamp comes on :-))
> >

> <Smug Mode>
> Mine work properly
> </SM>

And here, too. The only ones that take a while to light up are the 7W
LES reflectors in the conservatory - and they're OK provided it ain't
absolutely freezing in there.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:35:49 GMT   author:   Guy King

Re: Leslie   
On Jan 19, 8:35 pm, Guy King  wrote:
> The message <yM4dl.22534$Sp5.2...@text.news.virginmedia.com>
> from "malc"  contains these words:
>
> > campingstoveman wrote:
> > > Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL
> > > walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor
> > > the lamp comes on :-))
>
> > <Smug Mode>
> > Mine work properly
> > </SM>
>
> And here, too. The only ones that take a while to light up are the 7W
> LES reflectors in the conservatory - and they're OK provided it ain't
> absolutely freezing in there.
>
I still don't know where this myth (that CFLs take some time to come
on) has come from. I've been using them for about 16 years [1] now and
have never had a problem with them.

[1] Someone bought us one when we moved into our first house.

--
Malc
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:53:06 -0800 (PST)   author:   Malc

Re: Leslie   
Malc wrote:
> On Jan 19, 8:35 pm, Guy King  wrote:
>> The message <yM4dl.22534$Sp5.2...@text.news.virginmedia.com>
>> from "malc"  contains these words:
>>
>>> campingstoveman wrote:
>>>> Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL
>>>> walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor
>>>> the lamp comes on :-))
>>> <Smug Mode>
>>> Mine work properly
>>> </SM>
>> And here, too. The only ones that take a while to light up are the 7W
>> LES reflectors in the conservatory - and they're OK provided it ain't
>> absolutely freezing in there.
>>
> I still don't know where this myth (that CFLs take some time to come
> on) has come from. I've been using them for about 16 years [1] now and
> have never had a problem with them.

You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:56:40 +0000   author:   Boy George

Re: Leslie   
On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:

>
> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.->

Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
crap.

--
Malc
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:31:02 -0800 (PST)   author:   Malc

Re: Leslie   
Malc wrote:
> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
> 
>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.->
> 
> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
> crap.
> 
> --
> Malc

Don't talk bollocks you tit. Nearly all lamps no matter what make are 
made in one or two factories.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:01:10 +0000   author:   Kenny Rogers

Re: Leslie   
Kenny Rogers  wrote:

> Don't talk bollocks you tit.

Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?

-- 
Sn!pe                 ^Ï^                 <http://snipeco.ath.cx/>

             "Woof, bloody woof"
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:24:27 +0000   author:   (Sn!pe)

Re: Leslie   
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:31:02 -0800 (PST)
Malc  wrote:

> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
> 
> >
> > You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.->
> 
> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
> crap.

	All of mine switch on pretty much instantly, but get brighter as
they warm up taking perhaps 30 seconds to a minute.

-- 
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The computer obeys and wins.                | A better way to focus the sun
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    licences available see
                                            |    http://www.sohara.org/
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:25:44 +0000   author:   Steve O'Hara-Smith

Re: Leslie   
Sn!pe wrote:
> Kenny Rogers  wrote:
> 
>> Don't talk bollocks you tit.
> 
> Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
> 

Correction. Point of order not information.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:59:14 +0000   author:   Kenny Rogers

Re: Leslie   
Kenny Rogers  wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
> > Kenny Rogers  wrote:
> > 
> >> Don't talk bollocks you tit.
> > 
> > Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
> 
> Correction. Point of order not information.

Thank you. Point of order: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?

-- 
Sn!pe                 ^Ï^                 <http://snipeco.ath.cx/>

             "Woof, bloody woof"
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:17:12 +0000   author:   (Sn!pe)

Re: Leslie   
Sn!pe wrote:
> Kenny Rogers  wrote:
> 
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>> Kenny Rogers  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't talk bollocks you tit.
>>> Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
>> Correction. Point of order not information.
> 
> Thank you. Point of order: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
> 

Depends. What size tits are we talking about?
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:21:14 +0000   author:   Alfie

Re: Leslie   
Alfie  wrote:

[...]
> >>>> Don't talk bollocks you tit.
> >>> Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
> >> Correction. Point of order not information.
> > 
> > Thank you. Point of order: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
> 
> Depends. What size tits are we talking about?

Dunno, Kenny Rogers seems to be the expert on tits and obllocks

-- 
Sn!pe                 ^Ï^                 <http://snipeco.ath.cx/>

             "Woof, bloody woof"
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:29:05 +0000   author:   (Sn!pe)

Re: Leslie   
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:31:02 -0800 (PST)
> Malc  wrote:
>
>> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight
>>> on.->
>>
>> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
>> crap.
>
> All of mine switch on pretty much instantly, but get brighter as
> they warm up taking perhaps 30 seconds to a minute.

Sounds about right, I rarely take much notice so long as they light up 
instantly (for certain values of [1.27].

[1.27 to satisfy the pendants

-- 
Malc
R1100RS old and tatty

You laugh at me because I am different
I laugh at you because you are all the same
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:17:59 GMT   author:   malc

Re: Leslie   
Kenny Rogers wrote:
> Malc wrote:
>> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
>>
>>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight
>>> on.->
>>
>> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
>> crap.
>>
>> --
>> Malc
>
> Don't talk bollocks you tit. Nearly all lamps no matter what make are
> made in one or two factories.

Doesn't explain the really rubbish ones I've managed to get in the past. 
etTcso value ones for isntance.

-- 
Malc
R1100RS old and tatty

You laugh at me because I am different
I laugh at you because you are all the same
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:19:32 GMT   author:   malc

Re: Leslie   
malc wrote:
> Kenny Rogers wrote:
>> Malc wrote:
>>> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
>>>
>>>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight
>>>> on.->
>>> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
>>> crap.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malc
>> Don't talk bollocks you tit. Nearly all lamps no matter what make are
>> made in one or two factories.
> 
> Doesn't explain the really rubbish ones I've managed to get in the past. 
> etTcso value ones for isntance.
> 

Hope they work better than your keyboard.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:45:49 +0000   author:   Alfie

Re: Leslie   
Malc wrote:
> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
> 
>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.->
> 
> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
> crap.
> 
> --
> Malc
They switch on quickly but at a very low light level.
I have some that take some minutes to reach full light
date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:22:54 +1100   author:   F Murtz

Re: Leslie   
On or around Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:53:06 -0800 (PST), Malc
 enlightened us thusly:

>On Jan 19, 8:35 pm, Guy King  wrote:
>> The message <yM4dl.22534$Sp5.2...@text.news.virginmedia.com>
>> from "malc"  contains these words:
>>
>> > campingstoveman wrote:
>> > > Talking of low energy lights, how many of us have switched on a LEL
>> > > walked into a room fell over the furniture and as you hit the floor
>> > > the lamp comes on :-))
>>
>> > <Smug Mode>
>> > Mine work properly
>> > </SM>
>>
>> And here, too. The only ones that take a while to light up are the 7W
>> LES reflectors in the conservatory - and they're OK provided it ain't
>> absolutely freezing in there.
>>
>I still don't know where this myth (that CFLs take some time to come
>on) has come from. I've been using them for about 16 years [1] now and
>have never had a problem with them.

The very first ones on the market could take up to a second and took some
time to get to full brightness.

None of the recent ones I've seen take longer than a second to light, and
most seem to start brighter than the old ones, and warm up faster.

Hmmm.  I've just had a thought.  Perhaps they'd not fight so impressively
with the inverter as the 20W fluorescent tube that I'm currently using does?

It'd be fairly simple to fit some lumiaires with CFLs in instead.
-- 
Austin Shackles.  www.ddol-las.net  my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy!  Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\   
   >>  http://www.schlockmercenary.com/  <<      \  ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:33:39 +0000   author:   Austin Shackles

Re: Leslie   
Austin Shackles  wrote:
> On or around Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:53:06 -0800 (PST), Malc
>  enlightened us thusly:
> 
>>I still don't know where this myth (that CFLs take some time to come
>>on) has come from. I've been using them for about 16 years [1] now and
>>have never had a problem with them.
> 
> The very first ones on the market could take up to a second and took some
> time to get to full brightness.
> 
> None of the recent ones I've seen take longer than a second to light, and
> most seem to start brighter than the old ones, and warm up faster.
> 

I just bought one of the new dimmable CFLs (Govena, from Screwfix) for an 
application that flashes the lamp : this type is supposed to handle 
unlimited on/off cycles. 

Unfortunately it's no good for my use : it sits dark for a second or so
before coming on. A bit of a pain for a dimmable lamp, I'd have thought,
since many dimmers have a counterclockwise off position. You'll probably
always turn it to max and then back down again.

So I'm still looking for a coiled CFL that can be cycled at 2Hz for short
periods and will run off 110V (normal 240V CFLs will work but die very 
quickly). A cold-cathode lamp might do it but I have yet to find one.

-adrian
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:48:09 +0000   author:   Adrian Godwin

Re: Leslie   
Adrian Godwin wrote:
> I just bought one of the new dimmable CFLs (Govena, from Screwfix) for an 
> application that flashes the lamp : this type is supposed to handle 
> unlimited on/off cycles. 
> 
> Unfortunately it's no good for my use : it sits dark for a second or so
> before coming on. A bit of a pain for a dimmable lamp, I'd have thought,
> since many dimmers have a counterclockwise off position. You'll probably
> always turn it to max and then back down again.
> 
> So I'm still looking for a coiled CFL that can be cycled at 2Hz for short
> periods and will run off 110V (normal 240V CFLs will work but die very 
> quickly). A cold-cathode lamp might do it but I have yet to find one.


WTF are you trying to do?  And if you find one can you post the source 
back here as I'm looking for summat identical for me lad to use for a 
school science project.
date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:06:22 +1300   author:   EMB

Re: Leslie   
EMB  wrote:
> Adrian Godwin wrote:
>> 
>> So I'm still looking for a coiled CFL that can be cycled at 2Hz for short
>> periods and will run off 110V (normal 240V CFLs will work but die very 
>> quickly). A cold-cathode lamp might do it but I have yet to find one.
> 
> 
> WTF are you trying to do?  And if you find one can you post the source 
> back here as I'm looking for summat identical for me lad to use for a 
> school science project.

It's a replacement for the backglass lamp in a pinball machine, which 
sometimes lights steadily but also has periods where it flickers. Currently 
it has an incandescent lamp. The original was a circular fluorescent, but 
apparently they don't last long either.  Fluorescent is better because the 
light is whiter and there is less heat to damage the paint. 

I thought CFLs were a great replacement until I found the constant
restarts burns them out within hours. It might be worth trying the
other manufacturer, Varilight, but I haven't found them with the right
fitting (ES) yet.

If I can't find something off-the-shelf I might build something with
either a 2D lamp and an inverter like the one used in flat screens, or
a panel with white LEDs dotted over it.

What does the science project need ? LEDs may be a good answer.

-adrian
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:46:09 +0000   author:   Adrian Godwin

Re: Leslie   
The message 
from Adrian Godwin  contains these words:

> What does the science project need ? LEDs may be a good answer.

I'd use LEDs. A simple rectifier and dropper capable of taking the
original 240v won't be hard, and it'll have the advantage of being
nearly immortal if you don't drive them too hard.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:18:55 GMT   author:   Guy King

Re: Leslie   
Guy King wrote:
> The message 
> from Adrian Godwin  contains these words:
> 
>> What does the science project need ? LEDs may be a good answer.
> 
> I'd use LEDs. A simple rectifier and dropper capable of taking the
> original 240v won't be hard, and it'll have the advantage of being
> nearly immortal if you don't drive them too hard.
> 

Or you could leave the light on permanently and have an LCD screen in 
front and use that to block the light when needed.
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:34:13 +0000   author:   Cliff Ray

Re: Leslie   
The message 
from Cliff Ray  contains these words:

> > I'd use LEDs. A simple rectifier and dropper capable of taking the
> > original 240v won't be hard, and it'll have the advantage of being
> > nearly immortal if you don't drive them too hard.
> > 

> Or you could leave the light on permanently and have an LCD screen in 
> front and use that to block the light when needed.

Well, at that rate you might as well just put a flatscreen telly in
there and show DVDs.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:49:29 GMT   author:   Guy King

Re: Leslie   
Guy King wrote:
> The message 
> from Cliff Ray  contains these words:
> 
>>> I'd use LEDs. A simple rectifier and dropper capable of taking the
>>> original 240v won't be hard, and it'll have the advantage of being
>>> nearly immortal if you don't drive them too hard.
>>>
> 
>> Or you could leave the light on permanently and have an LCD screen in 
>> front and use that to block the light when needed.
> 
> Well, at that rate you might as well just put a flatscreen telly in
> there and show DVDs.
> 
http://www.liquidcrystaltechnologies.com/freeLCD.htm

I was thinking more along the lines of these people who will give you a 
free sample....
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:12:23 +0000   author:   Cliff Ray

Re: Leslie   
In article <4973db26$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
Richard Robinson   wrote:
>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>
>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>
>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?

I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
Lizard People in parliament, and that.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:00:37 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

Re: Leslie   
Carl LHS Williams said:
> In article <4973db26$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>
>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>
>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>
> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
> Lizard People in parliament, and that.

Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
sunlamps or IR bulbs ?


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
date: 20 Jan 2009 00:16:05 GMT   author:   Richard Robinson

Re: Leslie   
In article <497517c5$0$509$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
Richard Robinson   wrote:
>Carl LHS Williams said:
>> In article <4973db26$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>>
>>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>>
>>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>>
>> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
>> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
>
>Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
>sunlamps or IR bulbs ?

Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:24:48 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

Re: Leslie   
Carl LHS Williams said:
> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>>>
>>>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>>>
>>>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>>>
>>> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
>>> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
>>
>>Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
>>sunlamps or IR bulbs ?
>
> Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!

So, at least they're planning to just hole up & stay warm, instead of coming
out pestering us. Cover the House of Common in wire netting, rename it the
House of Lizard, and charge admission.


-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
date: 20 Jan 2009 01:19:12 GMT   author:   Richard Robinson

Re: Leslie   
The message <gl35kg$g4i$1@nntp.motzarella.org>
from Carl LHS Williams  contains these words:
> In article <497517c5$0$509$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> Richard Robinson   wrote:
> >Carl LHS Williams said:
> >> In article <4973db26$0$512$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
> >> Richard Robinson   wrote:
> >>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
> >>>>
> >>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
> >>>
> >>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the
> >>>attention of
> >>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
> >>
> >> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
> >> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
> >
> >Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
> >sunlamps or IR bulbs ?

> Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!

They'll never hatch them, though.

-- 
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:54:33 GMT   author:   Rusty_Hinge

Re: Leslie   
The message 
from Rusty_Hinge   contains these words:

> > Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!

> They'll never hatch them, though.

You have to plant them cap-up.

-- 
Skipweasel
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:31:57 GMT   author:   Guy King

Re: Leslie   
Malc wrote:
> On Jan 20, 10:56 am, Boy George  wrote:
> 
>> You must have dodgy eyesight if you really see them come straight on.->
> 
> Mine switch on within a few milliseconds, I can't help it if you buy
> crap.

Our trouble is that the great majority of the fittings in this house 
need candle blubs to avoid looking really silly. Tesco sometimes sell 
some suitably small ones in moderate powers, which aren't too bad, but 
the first ones I managed to find in anything like the right size are 
absolute penc - some of them glow for at least half a second before 
coming on dimly, and take several minutes to reach apparent maximum 
brightness. GEC in general seem to be particularly hopeless, even some 
of the full-size ones I've got aren't great.

And what is Really annoying is that I know the lbooyd things will 
probably last for years now, and I object to binning them before their 
natural end.

Having said that, within reason it is quite nice not to be hit by an 
immaediate full 120watts equivalent if I have to turn the hall or 
bedroom lights on in the middle of the night.


-- 
JonG
"Oh Lord, keep your arm round my shoulder
and your hand over my mouth"
date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:48:32 +0000   author:   JonG

Re: Leslie   
In article <1ituqla.62osg49k1zjpN%snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk>,
Sn!pe  wrote:
>Kenny Rogers  wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>> > Kenny Rogers  wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Don't talk bollocks you tit.
>> > 
>> > Point of information: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?
>> 
>> Correction. Point of order not information.
>
>Thank you. Point of order: are tits properly equipped to talk obllocks?

Well they're often seen with nuts in their gobs, flittering 'round the 
brid table, innit?
date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:33:16 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

Re: Leslie   
In article <49752690$0$513$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
Richard Robinson   wrote:
>Carl LHS Williams said:
>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>>>>
>>>>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>>>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>>>>
>>>> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
>>>> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
>>>
>>>Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
>>>sunlamps or IR bulbs ?
>>
>> Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!
>
>So, at least they're planning to just hole up & stay warm, instead of coming
>out pestering us. Cover the House of Common in wire netting, rename it the
>House of Lizard, and charge admission.

And, moreover, did you see that Grauniad headline: "[UK] Government buildings 
have bigger carbon footprint than all of Kenya" (or similar). 

Why would that be, were it not for them having converted 'em into hyooge terrariums 
(terraria?) with big infra-red lamps, eh?
date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:37:34 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

Re: Leslie   
Carl LHS Williams said:
> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>>>>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
>>>>> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
>>>>
>>>>Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
>>>>sunlamps or IR bulbs ?
>>>
>>> Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!
>>
>>So, at least they're planning to just hole up & stay warm, instead of coming
>>out pestering us. Cover the House of Common in wire netting, rename it the
>>House of Lizard, and charge admission.
>
> And, moreover, did you see that Grauniad headline: "[UK] Government buildings 
> have bigger carbon footprint than all of Kenya" (or similar). 
>
> Why would that be, were it not for them having converted 'em into hyooge terrariums 
> (terraria?) with big infra-red lamps, eh?

I'm suprised a lizard with feet that big could fit into Government
buildings, even if they were laid end to end.

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html
date: 21 Jan 2009 00:55:33 GMT   author:   Richard Robinson

Re: Leslie   
In article <49767285$0$510$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
Richard Robinson   wrote:
>
>I'm suprised a lizard with feet that big could fit into Government
>buildings, even if they were laid end to end.

Which is, of course, just the way they like it.
date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:49:58 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

Re: Leslie   
In uk.rec.sheds,  (Carl LHS Williams) wrote in
<gl5qod$44n$4@nntp.motzarella.org>::

>In article <49752690$0$513$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
>Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>Carl LHS Williams said:
>>>>> Richard Robinson   wrote:
>>>>>>Just zis Guy, you know? said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See? All fundies believe in aliens.  I diskard them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, do you have to quote them in ways that bring them to the attention of
>>>>>>those who had diskarded them more efficiently ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno, on this occasion I quite liked the quote, given the Ickean
>>>>> Lizard People in parliament, and that.
>>>>
>>>>Hmm. I'm not convinced. Wouldn't they be forcing us all to switch to
>>>>sunlamps or IR bulbs ?
>>>
>>> Nonono, they're HOARDING all the 100W bulbs, obviously!
>>
>>So, at least they're planning to just hole up & stay warm, instead of coming
>>out pestering us. Cover the House of Common in wire netting, rename it the
>>House of Lizard, and charge admission.
>
>And, moreover, did you see that Grauniad headline: "[UK] Government buildings 
>have bigger carbon footprint than all of Kenya" (or similar). 
>
>Why would that be, were it not for them having converted 'em into hyooge terrariums 
>(terraria?) with big infra-red lamps, eh?

Heh.  Amusingly enough, Mapeley Steps (the dodgy outfit to which the
Govt. outsourced all its tax offices) is in financial difficulties.  If
they don't raise the wonga required, the buildings will revert to the
ownership of the bank: HBOS.  Which is now effectively nationalised, so
they will end up back in public ownership.  
-- 
Marc

"In times of change the learners will inherit the earth, while the 
learned find themselves beautifully equiped to deal with a world
that no longer exists."  (Eric Hoffer)
date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:54:03 +0000   author:   Znep

Re: Leslie   
In article ,
Znep   wrote:
>In uk.rec.sheds,  (Carl LHS Williams) wrote in
>
>Heh.  Amusingly enough, Mapeley Steps (the dodgy outfit to which the
>Govt. outsourced all its tax offices) is in financial difficulties.  If
>they don't raise the wonga required, the buildings will revert to the
>ownership of the bank: HBOS.  Which is now effectively nationalised, so
>they will end up back in public ownership.  

Didn't they (Mapeley Steps) try that "ooh dear we're skint" thing 
early on in the deal, claiming that if the govt didn't appease them 
with even more wonga they'd be forced to sell all the offices to the
Chinese or demolish them or something? S'wot ISTR, anyway.

It would appear to have a certain poetic wossname about it if 'tis as
you say and the govt stand to get 'em back via HBOS. Though I daresay
whoever profited most from the original scam have long since 
ubggred off in their luxury yachts, clutching their sides with 
uncontrollable mirth.
date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Carl LHS Williams

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