Last Thursday I took some relatives for a sight-seeing trip over the 
Anglesey. One of the sights is the grove of trees above Aber in the 
shape of a cross (there is another grove above them in the shape of a 
propellor) which I understand is a memorial to a plane which crashed 
on the spot during WWII. To my astonishment the cross had completely 
disappeared, though knowing where to look I was able to make out a 
slightly darker brown where it had been.

I presume that some vandals had chopped all the trees down for timber. 
What did they do next? Go down and destroy all the stones in the 
nearby graveyard so that they could have gravel for concrete?

Vandals! Have they no respect for the heroes who died for our country?

The next stop on the tour - after Llanfair PG and Bryn Celli Ddu - was 
Barclodiad y Gawres. On all previous visits you pop into the newsagent 
in Llanfaelog, leave a 5.00ukp deposit and your name in a book, 
collect the key and go visit the grave mound with its amazing carved 
stones.

Not this time. The woman apologised and said that the monument was 
only open 12.00-4.00 at weekends. Apparently vandals have paid their 
deposit, got into the monument and sprayed the stones with graffiti, 
so from now on it's supervised visits only.

And what are the police and the courts doing about either incident?

Nothing. The offenders weren't speeding so there's no hope of "Let's 
legalise drugs" getting his paws on any money, so Bob Plod isn't 
interested.

Ken Down

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Kendall K Down wrote:
> Last Thursday I took some relatives for a sight-seeing trip over the 
> Anglesey. One of the sights is the grove of trees above Aber in the 
> shape of a cross (there is another grove above them in the shape of a 
> propellor) which I understand is a memorial to a plane which crashed 
> on the spot during WWII. To my astonishment the cross had completely 
> disappeared, though knowing where to look I was able to make out a 
> slightly darker brown where it had been.
> 
> I presume that some vandals had chopped all the trees down for timber. 
> What did they do next? Go down and destroy all the stones in the 
> nearby graveyard so that they could have gravel for concrete?
> 
> Vandals! Have they no respect for the heroes who died for our country?
> 
> The next stop on the tour - after Llanfair PG and Bryn Celli Ddu - was 
> Barclodiad y Gawres. On all previous visits you pop into the newsagent 
> in Llanfaelog, leave a 5.00ukp deposit and your name in a book, 
> collect the key and go visit the grave mound with its amazing carved 
> stones.
> 
> Not this time. The woman apologised and said that the monument was 
> only open 12.00-4.00 at weekends. Apparently vandals have paid their 
> deposit, got into the monument and sprayed the stones with graffiti, 
> so from now on it's supervised visits only.
> 
> And what are the police and the courts doing about either incident?
> 
> Nothing. The offenders weren't speeding so there's no hope of "Let's 
> legalise drugs" getting his paws on any money, so Bob Plod isn't 
> interested.
> 
> Ken Down
> 
Thank you for your reporting, Ken. It's very sad and frustrating to read 
about this kind of behavior. Worse to hear that nothing is being done 
about it. Is there a logical solution?

To think these guys research these things and then make a plan to go out 
and carry out their destruction.

redcat

I used to think that the grove of trees above Aber was a memorial of some 
kind, but apparently they are not. The trees were planted in a pattern as an 
experiment to see which patterns gave the best shelter to animals and other 
crops. Although it is a pity these trees have gone, they were not some kind 
of memorial.

Regards...John

"redcat"  wrote in message 
news:4LGdnVYJ8P5uRrfXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> Kendall K Down wrote:
>> Last Thursday I took some relatives for a sight-seeing trip over the 
>> Anglesey. One of the sights is the grove of trees above Aber in the shape 
>> of a cross (there is another grove above them in the shape of a 
>> propellor) which I understand is a memorial to a plane which crashed on 
>> the spot during WWII. To my astonishment the cross had completely 
>> disappeared, though knowing where to look I was able to make out a 
>> slightly darker brown where it had been.
>>
>> I presume that some vandals had chopped all the trees down for timber. 
>> What did they do next? Go down and destroy all the stones in the nearby 
>> graveyard so that they could have gravel for concrete?
>>
>> Vandals! Have they no respect for the heroes who died for our country?
>>
>> The next stop on the tour - after Llanfair PG and Bryn Celli Ddu - was 
>> Barclodiad y Gawres. On all previous visits you pop into the newsagent in 
>> Llanfaelog, leave a 5.00ukp deposit and your name in a book, collect the 
>> key and go visit the grave mound with its amazing carved stones.
>>
>> Not this time. The woman apologised and said that the monument was only 
>> open 12.00-4.00 at weekends. Apparently vandals have paid their deposit, 
>> got into the monument and sprayed the stones with graffiti, so from now 
>> on it's supervised visits only.
>>
>> And what are the police and the courts doing about either incident?
>>
>> Nothing. The offenders weren't speeding so there's no hope of "Let's 
>> legalise drugs" getting his paws on any money, so Bob Plod isn't 
>> interested.
>>
>> Ken Down
>>
> Thank you for your reporting, Ken. It's very sad and frustrating to read 
> about this kind of behavior. Worse to hear that nothing is being done 
> about it. Is there a logical solution?
>
> To think these guys research these things and then make a plan to go out 
> and carry out their destruction.
>
> redcat

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          "John Hopkins"  wrote:

> I used to think that the grove of trees above Aber was a memorial of some
> kind, but apparently they are not. The trees were planted in a pattern as an
> experiment to see which patterns gave the best shelter to animals and other
> crops. Although it is a pity these trees have gone, they were not some kind
> of memorial.

I'd be interested in knowing the source of your information?

Ken Down

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Kendall K Down wrote:
> In message <4a774e05$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>
>          "John Hopkins"  wrote:
>
>> I used to think that the grove of trees above Aber was a memorial of
>> some kind, but apparently they are not. The trees were planted in a
>> pattern as an experiment to see which patterns gave the best shelter
>> to animals and other crops. Although it is a pity these trees have
>> gone, they were not some kind of memorial.
>
> I'd be interested in knowing the source of your information?
>

Whilst it would seem the logical location for such a trial, being close to 
the University farm, I am scepticle.  It was such a wide belt of woodland. 
Quite a feature in the landscape that I saw and pondered about often whilst 
yacht racing on the Strait.

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          "Clot"  wrote:

>>> I used to think that the grove of trees above Aber was a memorial of
>>> some kind, but apparently they are not. The trees were planted in a
>>> pattern as an experiment to see which patterns gave the best shelter
>>> to animals and other crops. Although it is a pity these trees have
>>> gone, they were not some kind of memorial.

>> I'd be interested in knowing the source of your information?

> Whilst it would seem the logical location for such a trial, being close to
> the University farm, I am scepticle.  It was such a wide belt of woodland.
> Quite a feature in the landscape that I saw and pondered about often whilst
> yacht racing on the Strait.

Yes, and two shapes, in different spots of the landscape (ie. 
different altitudes) and such very odd shapes if one is considering 
shelter. As for crops - what crops?

So while I'm not ruling out Clot's explanation, I remain highly 
dubious.

Ken Down

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