The Auditor has replied to me today. His letter can be seen here.
http://definitivemap.blogspot.com  I shall be pressing the Auditor to
take further action and make further enquiries. Ipswich is one of the
few towns in the UK not to have a definitive map of its Public Rights
of Way. The Ramblers Association has been pressing for one since it
became a legal requirement in 1981. John Hunt and Suffolk Rights Of
Way have been pressing for one for the last two years and each time
the answer has been SCC cannot afford it. What kind of example is that
to the youth of today? If you cannot afford to stay legal don't
bother? Why are so many people today driving around without insurance?
The answer is obviously because they cannot afford it? Why is this
deplorable example being given by SCC? If you wish to comment in
confidence I am listening at  turtill@gmail.com 
pete

wrote in message
news:g8mj4497dc0fupvgu317mfq08hp7ivn84b@4ax.com...
> The Auditor has replied to me today. His letter can be seen here.
> I shall be pressing the Auditor to
> take further action and make further enquiries. Ipswich is one of the
> few towns in the UK not to have a definitive map of its Public Rights
> of Way. The Ramblers Association has been pressing for one since it
> became a legal requirement in 1981. John Hunt and Suffolk Rights Of
> Way have been pressing for one for the last two years and each time
> the answer has been SCC cannot afford it. What kind of example is that
> to the youth of today? If you cannot afford to stay legal don't
> bother? Why are so many people today driving around without insurance?
> The answer is obviously because they cannot afford it? Why is this
> deplorable example being given by SCC? If you wish to comment in
> confidence I am listening at  turtill@gmail.com
> pete

Let me see if I have this right. You want people to contact you <<in
confidence>> when you are infamous for posting other people's
confidential details all over UseNet?
How do the writers of letters to you feel about them being plastered all
over your numerous Blogs?

A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to Peter
Turtill:
Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
---------------
Recent Peter Turtill quotes:
On the subject of "Dogging"...
"I certainly am not nor am I in favour any kind of deviant behaviour in
public especially where young children frequent the location."

"I suppose a smear campaign against me is now inevitable."

"I believe it is essential young folks are shown a good example if they
are expected to behave and respect the law and behave responsibly."

"...I would face public humiliation because I had some hardcore but
legal stuff on my box."

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 08:21:49 +0100, "Shadrack"
 wrote:

> wrote in message
>news:g8mj4497dc0fupvgu317mfq08hp7ivn84b@4ax.com...
>> The Auditor has replied to me today. His letter can be seen here.
>> I shall be pressing the Auditor to
>> take further action and make further enquiries. Ipswich is one of the
>> few towns in the UK not to have a definitive map of its Public Rights
>> of Way. The Ramblers Association has been pressing for one since it
>> became a legal requirement in 1981. John Hunt and Suffolk Rights Of
>> Way have been pressing for one for the last two years and each time
>> the answer has been SCC cannot afford it. What kind of example is that
>> to the youth of today? If you cannot afford to stay legal don't
>> bother? Why are so many people today driving around without insurance?
>> The answer is obviously because they cannot afford it? Why is this
>> deplorable example being given by SCC? If you wish to comment in
>> confidence I am listening at  turtill@gmail.com
>> pete
>
>Let me see if I have this right. You want people to contact you <<in
>confidence>> when you are infamous for posting other people's
>confidential details all over UseNet?
>How do the writers of letters to you feel about them being plastered all
>over your numerous Blogs?
>
>A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to Peter
>Turtill:
>Do Not Do That! You have been warned.

Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?

"Occam"  wrote in message 
news:5nhk4496tuqj8dc58e6emrm2sdnqbu1ksu@4ax.com...

>>A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to Peter
>>Turtill:
>>Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
>
> Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?

FUQ, possibly.

:-)

I find his antics quite amusing.

The principal of working to enforce public rights of way is laudable, but 
the methods he and his chums use are hilariously inept.

The eternal repostings of things said in the course of discussion of other 
subjects in this and other fora overlooks the possibility that the man was 
boasting, bragging and/or bullshitting, and the high moral tone adopted by 
the various reposters exhibits a self-righteousness that is equally risible.

I see from Wikipedia that "The principle (Occam's razor) states that the 
explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, 
eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of 
the explanatory hypothesis or theory. The principle is often expressed in 
Latin as the lex parsimoniae ("law of parsimony" or "law of succinctness"): 
"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem", or "entities should not 
be multiplied beyond necessity". This is often paraphrased as "All other 
things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." In other words, when 
multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle 
recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and 
postulates the fewest entities. It is in this sense that Occam's razor is 
usually understood. Originally a tenet of the reductionist philosophy of 
nominalism, it is more often taken today as a heuristic maxim (rule of 
thumb) that advises economy, parsimony, or simplicity, often or especially 
in scientific theories."

In other words, Occam, "chill; it's only the internet."

-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

Brian Watson wrote:
> "Occam"  wrote in message 
> news:5nhk4496tuqj8dc58e6emrm2sdnqbu1ksu@4ax.com...
> 
>>> A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to Peter
>>> Turtill:
>>> Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
>> Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?
> 
> FUQ, possibly.
> 
> :-)
> 
> I find his antics quite amusing.
> 
> The principal of working to enforce public rights of way is laudable, but 
> the methods he and his chums use are hilariously inept.
> 
> The eternal repostings of things said in the course of discussion of other 
> subjects in this and other fora overlooks the possibility that the man was 
> boasting, bragging and/or bullshitting, and the high moral tone adopted by 
> the various reposters exhibits a self-righteousness that is equally risible.
> 
> I see from Wikipedia that "The principle (Occam's razor) states that the 
> explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, 
> eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of 
> the explanatory hypothesis or theory. The principle is often expressed in 
> Latin as the lex parsimoniae ("law of parsimony" or "law of succinctness"): 
> "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem", or "entities should not 
> be multiplied beyond necessity". This is often paraphrased as "All other 
> things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." In other words, when 
> multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle 
> recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and 
> postulates the fewest entities. It is in this sense that Occam's razor is 
> usually understood. Originally a tenet of the reductionist philosophy of 
> nominalism, it is more often taken today as a heuristic maxim (rule of 
> thumb) that advises economy, parsimony, or simplicity, often or especially 
> in scientific theories."
> 
> In other words, Occam, "chill; it's only the internet."
> 

-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

"Clatter Bucket"  wrote in message 
news:g2evco$qp7$1@aioe.org...
> Brian Watson wrote:

>> The eternal repostings of things said in the course of discussion of 
>> other subjects in this and other fora overlooks the possibility that the 
>> man was boasting, bragging and/or bullshitting, and the high moral tone 
>> adopted by the various reposters exhibits a self-righteousness that is 
>> equally risible.

>> In other words, Occam, "chill; it's only the internet."
>>
>
> -----------------
> Some Peter Turtill quotes:
> ----------------

<Snip all the usual stuff>

Yes, that's EXACTLY what I meant.
-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

"Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
news:6b04ofF3896mrU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Occam"  wrote in message 
> news:5nhk4496tuqj8dc58e6emrm2sdnqbu1ksu@4ax.com...
>
>>>A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to 
>>>Peter
>>>Turtill:
>>>Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
>>
>> Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?
>
> FUQ, possibly.
>
> :-)
>
> I find his antics quite amusing.

I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people. 
If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that 
there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.

> The principal of working to enforce public rights of way is laudable, 
> but the methods he and his chums use are hilariously inept.

<snipped for clarity>

Agreed, I think of him as one of the "last of the summer wine" types 
with a large dose of anarchy thrown in.   :-)

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:18:53 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>"Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
>news:6b04ofF3896mrU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Occam"  wrote in message 
>> news:5nhk4496tuqj8dc58e6emrm2sdnqbu1ksu@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to 
>>>>Peter
>>>>Turtill:
>>>>Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
>>>
>>> Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?
>>
>> FUQ, possibly.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> I find his antics quite amusing.
>
>I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people. 
>If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that 
>there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.
>
>> The principal of working to enforce public rights of way is laudable, 
>> but the methods he and his chums use are hilariously inept.
>
><snipped for clarity>
>
>Agreed, I think of him as one of the "last of the summer wine" types 
>with a large dose of anarchy thrown in.   :-)
>
Looking at his history I see him as far more spitefull than those you
describe

Brian Watson wrote:
> "Clatter Bucket"  wrote in message 
> news:g2evco$qp7$1@aioe.org...
>> Brian Watson wrote:
> 
>>> The eternal repostings of things said in the course of discussion of 
>>> other subjects in this and other fora overlooks the possibility that the 
>>> man was boasting, bragging and/or bullshitting, and the high moral tone 
>>> adopted by the various reposters exhibits a self-righteousness that is 
>>> equally risible.
> 
>>> In other words, Occam, "chill; it's only the internet."
>>>
>> -----------------
>> Some Peter Turtill quotes:
>> ----------------
> 
> <Snip all the usual stuff>
> 
> Yes, that's EXACTLY what I meant.
-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

Grumpy wrote:
> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
> news:6b04ofF3896mrU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Occam"  wrote in message 
>> news:5nhk4496tuqj8dc58e6emrm2sdnqbu1ksu@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> A word of warning for anyone contemplating giving personal info to 
>>>> Peter
>>>> Turtill:
>>>> Do Not Do That! You have been warned.
>>> Wasnt there some sort of Peter Turtill FAQ somewhere?
>> FUQ, possibly.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> I find his antics quite amusing.
> 
> I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people. 
> If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that 
> there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.
> 
>> The principal of working to enforce public rights of way is laudable, 
>> but the methods he and his chums use are hilariously inept.
> 
> <snipped for clarity>
> 
> Agreed, I think of him as one of the "last of the summer wine" types 
> with a large dose of anarchy thrown in.   :-)
> 
> 

Do 'the last of the summer wine type' attack blind and deaf people?

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:18:53 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people. 
>If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that 
>there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.

There are a few glaring examples that most who e-mail me or belong to
the groups I post to have spotted quite easily. Another issue I don't
quite understand myself probably concerns Civil Servant rules.

The basic point most have picked up is why were the recruitment agency
interviewing people whose financial requirements were greater than the
package on offer. Most believe a quiet word and a nod secured two
highly paid people on the short list of three to justify the eventual
salary level.
pete

none@snotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:18:53 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people. 
>> If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that 
>> there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.
> 
> There are a few glaring examples that most who e-mail me or belong to
> the groups I post to have spotted quite easily. Another issue I don't
> quite understand myself probably concerns Civil Servant rules.
> 
> The basic point most have picked up is why were the recruitment agency
> interviewing people whose financial requirements were greater than the
> package on offer. Most believe a quiet word and a nod secured two
> highly paid people on the short list of three to justify the eventual
> salary level.
> pete



Hi peter turtills grand kids. Did you know that grandad is a N-O-N-C-E
and that he attacks deaf and blind people? Isn't grandad a C-U-N-T?


-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete


-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

wrote in message 
news:0ljn44li3fgrjojnumshb5vj9lnjdvcuna@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:18:53 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people.
>>If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that
>>there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.
>
> There are a few glaring examples that most who e-mail me or belong to
> the groups I post to have spotted quite easily. Another issue I don't
> quite understand myself probably concerns Civil Servant rules.
>
> The basic point most have picked up is why were the recruitment agency
> interviewing people whose financial requirements were greater than the
> package on offer. Most believe a quiet word and a nod secured two
> highly paid people on the short list of three to justify the eventual
> salary level.
> pete

Okay, so you got your picture in the local paper and your 15 minutes of 
fame but beware! I have considerable experience of the media and how it 
works. Should your case ever reach the High Court (or whatever) believe 
me the "Gutter Press" will place your whole life under scrutiny. They 
will dig up anything and everything about you. Why would they do that 
you may ask?

It's very simple; your background may well be a more interesting story 
than some ex-Bedford Council employee hitting paydirt in Ipswich. So 
unless you are squeaky clean, no skeletons in the cupboard etc I would 
drop this case like a hot spud.

Grumpy wrote:
>  wrote in message 
> news:0ljn44li3fgrjojnumshb5vj9lnjdvcuna@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:18:53 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I often wonder how many of his postings are purely to wind up people.
>>> If you read the Auditors response PT published online, it appears that
>>> there will be no case to answer, unless I read it wrong.
>> There are a few glaring examples that most who e-mail me or belong to
>> the groups I post to have spotted quite easily. Another issue I don't
>> quite understand myself probably concerns Civil Servant rules.
>>
>> The basic point most have picked up is why were the recruitment agency
>> interviewing people whose financial requirements were greater than the
>> package on offer. Most believe a quiet word and a nod secured two
>> highly paid people on the short list of three to justify the eventual
>> salary level.
>> pete
> 
> Okay, so you got your picture in the local paper and your 15 minutes of 
> fame but beware! I have considerable experience of the media and how it 
> works. Should your case ever reach the High Court (or whatever) believe 
> me the "Gutter Press" will place your whole life under scrutiny. They 
> will dig up anything and everything about you. Why would they do that 
> you may ask?
> 
> It's very simple; your background may well be a more interesting story 
> than some ex-Bedford Council employee hitting paydirt in Ipswich. So 
> unless you are squeaky clean, no skeletons in the cupboard etc I would 
> drop this case like a hot spud. 
> 
> 

Hiya peter turtils grand kids!


-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:29:59 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
wrote:


>Okay, so you got your picture in the local paper and your 15 minutes of 
>fame but beware! I have considerable experience of the media and how it 
>works. Should your case ever reach the High Court (or whatever) believe 
>me the "Gutter Press" will place your whole life under scrutiny. They 
>will dig up anything and everything about you. Why would they do that 
>you may ask?
>
>It's very simple; your background may well be a more interesting story 
>than some ex-Bedford Council employee hitting paydirt in Ipswich. So 
>unless you are squeaky clean, no skeletons in the cupboard etc I would 
>drop this case like a hot spud. 

Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. All
my skeletons are already out in the open. The press have little or no
interest in the story nationally. It is and will remain a local issue.
I too have considerable experience of the press.
pete

none@snotmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:29:59 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Okay, so you got your picture in the local paper and your 15 minutes of 
>> fame but beware! I have considerable experience of the media and how it 
>> works. Should your case ever reach the High Court (or whatever) believe 
>> me the "Gutter Press" will place your whole life under scrutiny. They 
>> will dig up anything and everything about you. Why would they do that 
>> you may ask?
>>
>> It's very simple; your background may well be a more interesting story 
>> than some ex-Bedford Council employee hitting paydirt in Ipswich. So 
>> unless you are squeaky clean, no skeletons in the cupboard etc I would 
>> drop this case like a hot spud. 
> 
> Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
> not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
> it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
> stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. All
> my skeletons are already out in the open. The press have little or no
> interest in the story nationally. It is and will remain a local issue.
> I too have considerable experience of the press.
> pete

HI PETER TURTILLS GRAND KIDS!

-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:27:46 +0100, none@snotmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:29:59 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Okay, so you got your picture in the local paper and your 15 minutes of 
>>fame but beware! I have considerable experience of the media and how it 
>>works. Should your case ever reach the High Court (or whatever) believe 
>>me the "Gutter Press" will place your whole life under scrutiny. They 
>>will dig up anything and everything about you. Why would they do that 
>>you may ask?
>>
>>It's very simple; your background may well be a more interesting story 
>>than some ex-Bedford Council employee hitting paydirt in Ipswich. So 
>>unless you are squeaky clean, no skeletons in the cupboard etc I would 
>>drop this case like a hot spud. 
>
>Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
>not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
>it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
>stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. 


Perhaps you should point out what you believe is inaccurate and then
others could provide "proof" if they have it.

andrew wrote:

>> Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
>> not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
>> it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
>> stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. 
> 
> 
> Perhaps you should point out what you believe is inaccurate and then
> others could provide "proof" if they have it.

HI PETER TURTILLS GRAND KIDS.

A few of peter (nonceboy)turtills quotes:-

-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

"Clatter Bucket"  wrote in message 
news:g2ggcn$th8$2@aioe.org...
> Grumpy wrote:

>>  I think of him as one of the "last of the summer wine" types with a 
>> large dose of anarchy thrown in.   :-)
>>
>>
>
> Do 'the last of the summer wine type' attack blind and deaf people?

No, but they slide geriatrics down Yorkshire hills in tin baths.

-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

"Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
news:6b7msfF3ashi4U1@mid.individual.net...
< a bit of scissors work>

>> Do 'the last of the summer wine type' attack blind and deaf people?
>
> No, but they slide geriatrics down Yorkshire hills in tin baths.

I bet you don't know why they do that eh Brian? I will let you into a 
little secret.  ;-)
Yorkshire folk are tight ar*ed so when they pong a bit they slide down a 
rugged Mooreland hillside in a tin bath full of cold soapy water. The 
friction developed heats the water in the tub thereby saving them tight 
wads a few bob. :-))

Alright, I know, I'll get my coat.

wrote in message
news:a7br4459krf3u6udc4ngn29cvjhvesnj8a@4ax.com...
> Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
> not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
> it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
> stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. All
> my skeletons are already out in the open. The press have little or no
> interest in the story nationally. It is and will remain a local issue.
> I too have considerable experience of the press.
> pete

Of course it's your right to do whatever you please but I cannot help
thinking of the old adage:
"when you have dug yourself into a deep hole, it's best to stop
digging".

With regard to your claim to "have considerable experience of the
Press". Don't fool yourself that this will remain a local issue, once it
gets to the High Court it will be "Open Season on Peter Turtill" by the
big boys of the media and it won't be pleasant. If you don't have some
high power friends in the national media, who owe you favours, then you
are going to be in for a very rough ride.

Unless of course this is all a bluff and you are expecting a financial
bung to back off? Well I can assure you that will NOT happen. Stick to
your RoW activities but please, no breaking locks and chopping gates
down. :-))

"Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g2mm9s$76s$1@energise.enta.net...
> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
> news:6b7msfF3ashi4U1@mid.individual.net...
> < a bit of scissors work>
>
>>> Do 'the last of the summer wine type' attack blind and deaf people?
>>
>> No, but they slide geriatrics down Yorkshire hills in tin baths.
>
> I bet you don't know why they do that eh Brian? I will let you into a 
> little secret.  ;-)
> Yorkshire folk are tight ar*ed so when they pong a bit they slide down a 
> rugged Mooreland hillside in a tin bath full of cold soapy water. The 
> friction developed heats the water in the tub thereby saving them tight 
> wads a few bob. :-))
>
> Alright, I know, I'll get my coat.

Always pleased to improve my education.

:-)

Grumpy wrote:
>  wrote in message
> news:a7br4459krf3u6udc4ngn29cvjhvesnj8a@4ax.com...
>> Having my picture published is one of the penalties of going public
>> not one of the rewards. As far as my background in the UK is concerned
>> it is already in the public domain plus a whole load of inaccurate
>> stuff Anthony Bournes has posted about me in the last few years. All
>> my skeletons are already out in the open. The press have little or no
>> interest in the story nationally. It is and will remain a local issue.
>> I too have considerable experience of the press.
>> pete
> 
> Of course it's your right to do whatever you please but I cannot help
> thinking of the old adage:
> "when you have dug yourself into a deep hole, it's best to stop
> digging".
> 
> With regard to your claim to "have considerable experience of the
> Press". Don't fool yourself that this will remain a local issue, once it
> gets to the High Court it will be "Open Season on Peter Turtill" by the
> big boys of the media and it won't be pleasant. 

I hope so. The press will probably be looking for things like this:-


-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

"Brian Watson"  wrote in message
news:6b9ic0F3bdjomU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g2mm9s$76s$1@energise.enta.net...
>> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message
>> news:6b7msfF3ashi4U1@mid.individual.net...
>> < a bit of scissors work>
>>
>>>> Do 'the last of the summer wine type' attack blind and deaf people?
>>>
>>> No, but they slide geriatrics down Yorkshire hills in tin baths.
>>
>> I bet you don't know why they do that eh Brian? I will let you into a
>> little secret.  ;-)
>> Yorkshire folk are tight ar*ed so when they pong a bit they slide
>> down a rugged Mooreland hillside in a tin bath full of cold soapy
>> water. The friction developed heats the water in the tub thereby
>> saving them tight wads a few bob. :-))
>>
>> Alright, I know, I'll get my coat.
>
> Always pleased to improve my education.
>
> :-)

 In that case I shall attempt to satisfy your craving for more
education.

Did you know there's a food commonly available in the UK for 100's of
years, when eaten by humans takes only one portion to make you sick for
the rest of your life?

The strange thing is this food has not yet been banned by the Elf &
Soppy brigade.
The name of this food?
.
.
.
Wedding cake!

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:48:21 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
wrote:


>With regard to your claim to "have considerable experience of the
>Press". Don't fool yourself that this will remain a local issue, once it
>gets to the High Court it will be "Open Season on Peter Turtill" by the
>big boys of the media and it won't be pleasant. If you don't have some
>high power friends in the national media, who owe you favours, then you
>are going to be in for a very rough ride.
>
>Unless of course this is all a bluff and you are expecting a financial
>bung to back off? Well I can assure you that will NOT happen. Stick to
>your RoW activities but please, no breaking locks and chopping gates
>down. :-)) 

I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
does include unlawful fences and gates.
pete

none@snotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:48:21 +0100, "Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> With regard to your claim to "have considerable experience of the
>> Press". Don't fool yourself that this will remain a local issue, once it
>> gets to the High Court it will be "Open Season on Peter Turtill" by the
>> big boys of the media and it won't be pleasant. If you don't have some
>> high power friends in the national media, who owe you favours, then you
>> are going to be in for a very rough ride.
>>
>> Unless of course this is all a bluff and you are expecting a financial
>> bung to back off? Well I can assure you that will NOT happen. Stick to
>> your RoW activities but please, no breaking locks and chopping gates
>> down. :-)) 
> 
> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
> does include unlawful fences and gates.
> pete

Disabled my arse. You are a DSS scrounger as well as a kiddy fiddler.

HI PETER TURTILLS GRAND KIDS

  -----------------
  Some Peter Turtill quotes:
  ----------------


  "I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
  Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
  what their bodies are telling them."
  -----------------------------------------------------

  "I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
  and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

  Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
  understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
  treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
  pete

  -------------------------------------------

  "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
  punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
  committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
  keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
  protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
  taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
  custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
  but that is the way it works unfortunately".

  --------------
  "Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

  ---------
  "The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
  ------------------

  I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
  process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
  zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
  shortly afterwards:-)
  pete

  --------------
  "I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
  me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
  health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

  ---------

  "I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
  -------------
  "I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

  ------------------
  "Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
  with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it 
flying 15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
  and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out 
into the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
  The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
  but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

"Grumpy" <grumpy@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g2obag$3a8$1@energise.enta.net...

> Did you know there's a food commonly available in the UK for 100's of
> years, when eaten by humans takes only one portion to make you sick for
> the rest of your life?
>
> The strange thing is this food has not yet been banned by the Elf &
> Soppy brigade.
> The name of this food?
> .
> .
> .
> Wedding cake!

Tee hee!

And did you know there is a food that's good for feeding all parts of the 
body and yet it's unpalatable to all repetitious posters to newsgroups? It's 
called...

















...humble pie.

-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

wrote in message 
news:c6m054tiaeq4it2hsmtklrd618e2s8b0pf@4ax.com...

> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
> does include unlawful fences and gates.

And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such obstructions?
-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

"Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
news:6bccmjF3bjkgeU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>  wrote in message 
> news:c6m054tiaeq4it2hsmtklrd618e2s8b0pf@4ax.com...
>
>> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
>> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
>> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
>> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
>> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
>> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
>> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
>> does include unlawful fences and gates.
>
> And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such obstructions?

I think you will find it does. Obviously Pete would not have published 
photographs of him doing the deed without being sure.

John Hunt

John Hunt wrote:
> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
> news:6bccmjF3bjkgeU1@mid.individual.net...
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:c6m054tiaeq4it2hsmtklrd618e2s8b0pf@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
>>> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
>>> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
>>> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
>>> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
>>> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
>>> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
>>> does include unlawful fences and gates.
>> And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such obstructions?
> 
> I think you will find it does. Obviously Pete would not have published 
> photographs of him doing the deed without being sure.
> 

PMSL. You seem to think that turdpile has the slightest notion
of law? That is why he gets stuffed for £1000 costs and contempt
of court orders made.

HI PETER TURTILLS GRAND KIDS!



-----------------
Some Peter Turtill quotes:
----------------


"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
-----------------------------------------------------

"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

-------------------------------------------

"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

--------------
"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

---------
"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
------------------

I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

--------------
"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

---------

"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
-------------
"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

------------------
"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete

"John Hunt"  wrote in message 
news:6bcvr9F3a3vqcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
> news:6bccmjF3bjkgeU1@mid.individual.net...
>> And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such 
>> obstructions?
>
> I think you will find it does. Obviously Pete would not have published 
> photographs of him doing the deed without being sure.
>
> John Hunt
>>
Hi "pete" - you never learn do you? The headers always give the game 
away, know what I mean - nudge - nudge   ;-)   ;-)

Let me get this into perspective: you published pics of you going about 
your criminal activities.
You got blagged by the law and now you reckon once you are off bail you 
can do it again? ROFL...

Wake up and smell the coffee! You can't commit criminal damage to locks, 
gates or whatever just because your interpretation of the law is 
different to normal people and the courts.

Now whilst we are at it, you still haven't explained how someone who 
claims to be <disabled> can hop over a fence and photograph a burnt out 
Transit van.

Nor have you explained how someone who claims to be <disabled> can use 
bolt cutters - oxy-acetylene burners (your words), angle grinders and 
the like to hack down gates, locks and obstructions you think are 
unlawful.

We want answers "pete" so come on down and spill the beans. We won't 
mind if you ask for a back-hander afore you drop "john hunt" in the 
proverbial.  PML...

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:05:49 +0100, "John Hunt"
 wrote:

>
>"Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
>news:6bccmjF3bjkgeU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:c6m054tiaeq4it2hsmtklrd618e2s8b0pf@4ax.com...
>>
>>> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
>>> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
>>> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
>>> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
>>> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
>>> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
>>> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
>>> does include unlawful fences and gates.
>>
>> And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such obstructions?
>
>I think you will find it does. Obviously Pete would not have published 
>photographs of him doing the deed without being sure.

Indeed. I had checked it out the best I know how. If I am wrong I will
be the one who is penalised. You know the story John and how I could
have walked away with a caution if I wanted to.
pete

none@snotmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:05:49 +0100, "John Hunt"
>  wrote:
> 
>> "Brian Watson"  wrote in message 
>> news:6bccmjF3bjkgeU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:c6m054tiaeq4it2hsmtklrd618e2s8b0pf@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> I am not after a bung. I am retired and RoW issues are a hobby and I
>>>> can assure you there is no money in RoW unless you are a RoW lawyer
>>>> and that takes many years of study and hard work. I needed a way to
>>>> carry on doing what I have always done before I became disabled. I
>>>> have been lucky enough to discover a lawful way to protect RoW. As for
>>>> unlawful obstructions on a RoW? Well if I come across one and the law
>>>> allows me to remove it I will do so once I am no longer on bail. That
>>>> does include unlawful fences and gates.
>>> And how about if the law does not allow you to remove such obstructions?
>> I think you will find it does. Obviously Pete would not have published 
>> photographs of him doing the deed without being sure.
> 
> Indeed. I had checked it out the best I know how. If I am wrong I will
> be the one who is penalised. 

You stupid kiddly fiddling cunt. It cost you a thousand quid last time 
you demonstrated how much you know about law! lol

HI PETER TURTILLS GRAND KIDS!!!!!!


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Some Peter Turtill quotes:
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"I've had sex with 13 14 15 year olds and in this country too not
Bangkok. I see no problem with it personally if they can understand
what their bodies are telling them."
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"I broke down the gates at Ship Launch Road and those on New Cut East
and challenged Associated British Ports to have me charged."

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Well as you don't know the details I suppose it would be difficult to
understand but I was well pleased after seeing my mother die with
treatable cancer because the beneficeries had already spent her money.
pete

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"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".

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"Well I suppose I wasn't being completely truthful there."

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"The RSPCA is one organisation I would like to see put to sleep."
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I have done this on legal aid a few years ago. I lost but in the
process I spent the entire estate and the other beneficiaries got
zilch except they had to pay for their legal team and went bankrupt
shortly afterwards:-)
pete

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"I also require you to make a substantial payment in compensation to
me for the great injustice you have caused me and the expense and
health problems you have willingly and maliciously caused me."

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"I would not expect my neighbours to call the police. By the time my 
neighbours had finished with the reckless people perpertrating such a 
folly they would be more likely to require an ambulance than a police van".
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"I was going to call the Fire Brigade but then I remembered what 
happened to me last time I tried to be helpfull."

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"Many years back I got done for causing death by dangerous driving. A 
chap and me were having a wild time in an E-Type Jaguar
with a handful of cops chasing. I turned the car over and got it flying 
15 foot off the ground going backwards. I hit a tree
and I got chucked out into a field. The chap with me was thrown out into 
the road. We stopped pretty quickly by the tree.
The cop couldn't stop and he ran over the chap in the road and 
decapitated him. It was never admitted by the cops in court
but it was elsewhere. I got 3 years for causing death by dangerous 
driving. The cop wasn't charged" - pete