Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's 
out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich 
Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.

<quote>
"It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
but that is the way it works unfortunately".
</quote>

Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen 
who doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, not 
does he brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.

Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry 
Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge of 
the Law is on a par with that of a yak.

Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples 
personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year olds 
both in the UK and Bangkok.

Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich. Gosh!

"Shadrack"  wrote in message 
news:4707c581$0$11299$6d36acad@fe2.nntpserver.com...
> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's 
> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich 
> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>
> <quote>
> "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
> punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
> committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
> keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
> protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
> taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
> custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
> but that is the way it works unfortunately".
> </quote>
>
> Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen who 
> doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, not does he 
> brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.
>
> Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry 
> Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge of 
> the Law is on a par with that of a yak.
>
> Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples 
> personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year olds 
> both in the UK and Bangkok.
>
> Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich. Gosh!

Poor things, don`t you think they should be warned?

Pat

Shadrack wrote:
> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's 
> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich 
> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
> 
> <quote>
> "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
> punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
> committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
> keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
> protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
> taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
> custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
> but that is the way it works unfortunately".
> </quote>
> 
> Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen 
> who doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, not 
> does he brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.
> 
> Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry 
> Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge of 
> the Law is on a par with that of a yak.
> 
> Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples 
> personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year olds 
> both in the UK and Bangkok.
> 
> Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich. Gosh!

You forgot to say hi to turtills grandkids when they get here from 
googling the disgusting piece of shite.

On 6 Oct, 19:54, "Shadrack"  wrote:
> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's
> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich
> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>
> <quote>
> "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
> punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
> committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
> keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
> protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
> taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
> custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
> but that is the way it works unfortunately".
> </quote>
>
> Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen
> who doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, not
> does he brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.
>
> Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry
> Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge of
> the Law is on a par with that of a yak.
>
> Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples
> personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year olds
> both in the UK and Bangkok.
>
> Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich. Gosh!

Ummm...isn't bail after someone is charged but before the hearing to
decide innocence or guilt?
The alternative to actually putting someone on remand. And usually
having some conditions attached, such as staying in a certain area or
country and informing police if going anywhere.
If he's on bail then CPS will often already have all they need.



Martin  <><

mart2306@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 6 Oct, 19:54, "Shadrack"  wrote:
>> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's
>> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich
>> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>>
>snip
> Ummm...isn't bail after someone is charged but before the hearing to
> decide innocence or guilt?
> The alternative to actually putting someone on remand. And usually
> having some conditions attached, such as staying in a certain area or
> country and informing police if going anywhere.
> If he's on bail then CPS will often already have all they need.
> 
snip

actually bail is also used when the police are investigating 
  if you have committed a crime,
for instance if they think there is evidence of wrongdoing 
on your computer. they will arrest you and take your 
computer for forensic examination. you will then be released 
on bail, quite often with no restrictions on where you go. 
then when they have the results back they either discharge 
you from bail, or charge you to go to court.
martin mcgowan

Martin McGowan wrote:
> mart2306@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On 6 Oct, 19:54, "Shadrack"  wrote:
>>> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. He's
>>> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on Ipswich
>>> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>>>
>> snip
>> Ummm...isn't bail after someone is charged but before the hearing to
>> decide innocence or guilt?
>> The alternative to actually putting someone on remand. And usually
>> having some conditions attached, such as staying in a certain area or
>> country and informing police if going anywhere.
>> If he's on bail then CPS will often already have all they need.
>>
> snip
> 
> actually bail is also used when the police are investigating  if you 
> have committed a crime,
> for instance if they think there is evidence of wrongdoing on your 
> computer. they will arrest you and take your computer for forensic 
> examination. you will then be released on bail, quite often with no 
> restrictions on where you go. then when they have the results back they 
> either discharge you from bail, or charge you to go to court.
> martin mcgowan

Or if - for instance - a person should claim to be shagging under aged 
kids (in this country mind not Bangcok)then turtill, oops SORRY! 
'someone' might be on bail while this very serious matter is looked
at with a view to bringing charges.

HI PETER TURTILLS GRANDKIDS!

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:47:38 GMT, Martin McGowan
 wrote:

>actually bail is also used when the police are investigating 
>  if you have committed a crime,
>for instance if they think there is evidence of wrongdoing 
>on your computer. they will arrest you and take your 
>computer for forensic examination. you will then be released 
>on bail, quite often with no restrictions on where you go. 
>then when they have the results back they either discharge 
>you from bail, or charge you to go to court.
>martin mcgowan

In this particular circumstance I was arrested and held in the cells
for 6 hours where I caught up with some sleep. The cops then said I
could go if I would accept a caution but I refused a caution and so I
was released on bail while the CPS decide what to charge me with. I
have been back to the cop shop twice now to be charged which is what I
want to happen but each time my bail has been extended and still I
have not been charged with anything.
pete
p.s. Just why this was x-posted here I do not know.
http://www.ipswichdocks.blogspot.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswich

wrote in message
news:1191746994.244251.176700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On 6 Oct, 19:54, "Shadrack"  wrote:
>> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state.
>> He's
>> out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on
>> Ipswich
>> Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>>
>> <quote>
>> "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
>> punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
>> committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
>> keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
>> protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
>> taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
>> custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
>> but that is the way it works unfortunately".
>> </quote>
>>
>> Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen
>> who doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, nor
>> does he brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.
>>
>> Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry
>> Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge
>> of the Law is on a par with that of a yak.
>>
>> Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples
>> personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year
>> olds both in the UK and Bangkok.
>>
>> Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich.
>> Gosh!
>
> Ummm...isn't bail after someone is charged but before the hearing to
> decide innocence or guilt?
> The alternative to actually putting someone on remand. And usually
> having some conditions attached, such as staying in a certain area or
> country and informing police if going anywhere.
> If he's on bail then CPS will often already have all they need.
>
>
Having read this page -
http://www.cjsonline.gov.uk/defendant/Bail/index.html
it looks like the CPS are gathering evidence against Peter Turtill,
possibly from third parties and/or actual witnesses of his crimes.

Considering that he is also subject to a "Contempt of Court Order", one
could say Peter Turtill is sailing pretty close to the wind. Fingers
crossed lads, he may soon be banged up.

"Shadrack"  wrote in message 
news:4707c581$0$11299$6d36acad@fe2.nntpserver.com...
> Read this quote from Peter Turtill and wonder at his mental state. 
> He's out on bail for committing criminal damage to gates and locks on 
> Ipswich Docks and in other parts of Ipswich.
>
> <quote>
> "It is not acceptable of course. It is using bail as a control or
> punishment. I have been on bail for months because I have not
> committed an offence so the CPS cannot charge me. Instead my bail
> keeps on being extended and when I asked if I could carry on
> protecting PRoW by removing obstructions I was warned that would be
> taken very seriously and could end up with me being remanded in
> custody awaiting a charge or no charge. That is not right of course
> but that is the way it works unfortunately".
> </quote>
>
> Of course Turtill is completely innocent, he is a law abiding citizen 
> who doesn't have a blog with photographic evidence of his crimes, not 
> does he brag about his criminal activities on Usenet.
>
> Furthermore, neither does he threaten to sue Anglo-Norden Forestry 
> Products Limited, even though they are in the right and his knowledge 
> of the Law is on a par with that of a yak.
>
> Might I also say that Peter Turtill has never published other peoples 
> personal details online, nor has he had sex with 13, 14 and 15 year 
> olds both in the UK and Bangkok.
>
> Oh look! There's a herd of pigs flying over Beatty Road Ipswich. Gosh!
>>
Without wishing to get involved with the various personality clashes in 
here, I would say the police have taken sensible steps to prevent Mr 
Turtill doing more damage and carrying out further acts of criminal 
damage, in what appears to be a vendetta against Ipswich Borough Council 
and others.

If he is upset or angry with their (the police's) decision then surely 
all he has to do is ignore the warnings and carry on with his 
obstruction removing activities? That will prompt some action.