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date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:31:00 GMT,    group: uk.local.east-anglia        back       
A Great Site   
www.fixmystreet.com



Report problems to your local council.
date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:31:00 GMT   author:   John Smith

Re: A Great Site   
"John Smith"  wrote in message 
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> www.fixmystreet.com
>
>
>
> Report problems to your local council.

Thanks for that - I bet all the councils get swamped now!

Pat
date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:13:58 GMT   author:   Pat P

Re: A Great Site   
Hopefully with problems that need sorting !



"Pat P"  wrote in message 
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>
> "John Smith"  wrote in message 
> news:oSTMi.326$WX3.306@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> www.fixmystreet.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Report problems to your local council.
>
> Thanks for that - I bet all the councils get swamped now!
>
> Pat
>
date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:28:04 GMT   author:   John Smith

Re: A Great Site   
In my experience reporting things to the Council only galvanises them into 
inventing a lie to tell you.  Fenland trespassed into my garden, vandalised 
my tree and stole the branches. Their response to me so far is to claim that 
there had been complaints about the overhanging branches and that the 
vandalism was done to British Standard whatever.  They haven't been able to 
produce the complaints, a local tree surgeon has said the work was badly 
done and not to any British Standard, and they haven't replied to my 
solicitor's letters.

Easier complaining will only lead to easier lies




"John Smith"  wrote in message 
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> www.fixmystreet.com
>
>
>
> Report problems to your local council.
>
date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:01:48 +0100   author:   Oxymel of Squill

Re: A Great Site   
Oxymel of Squill wrote:
> In my experience reporting things to the Council only galvanises them
> into inventing a lie to tell you.  Fenland trespassed into my garden,
> vandalised my tree and stole the branches. Their response to me so
> far is to claim that there had been complaints about the overhanging
> branches and that the vandalism was done to British Standard
> whatever.  They haven't been able to produce the complaints, a local
> tree surgeon has said the work was badly done and not to any British
> Standard, and they haven't replied to my solicitor's letters.
>
> Easier complaining will only lead to easier lies

It appears you are completely correct.
I've just received a reply containing a spectacularly good example of 
buck-passing.

<quote reply>
Sam

Thank you for your report to FixMyStreet.

Lighting is actually a concurrent power with the County Council, District 
Councils and Parish Councils all being able to provide and maintain 
lighting.  Whilst all of these authorities have these powers, not all of 
them actually exercise them.

The County Council can only exercise their lighting power on the Highway and 
unfortunately the area in question does not form part of the Highway and NCC 
cannot provide any lighting in this case.  However, it is possible that 
King's Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council or the Parish Council may be 
willing to provide lighting on this path.  You may therefore wish to pursue 
this matter directly with them.

I hope the above information is useful and I apologise that I cannot be more 
helpful.

Best Regards
Stephen Littleboy
Street Lighting Engineer
Norfolk County Council
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:08:18 +0100   author:   \(not quite so\) Fat Sam

Re: A Great Site   
"(not quite so) Fat Sam"  wrote in 
message news:0uqdnc1pSboOeZTanZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Oxymel of Squill wrote:
>> In my experience reporting things to the Council only galvanises them
>> into inventing a lie to tell you.  Fenland trespassed into my garden,
>> vandalised my tree and stole the branches. Their response to me so
>> far is to claim that there had been complaints about the overhanging
>> branches and that the vandalism was done to British Standard
>> whatever.  They haven't been able to produce the complaints, a local
>> tree surgeon has said the work was badly done and not to any British
>> Standard, and they haven't replied to my solicitor's letters.
>>
>> Easier complaining will only lead to easier lies
>
> It appears you are completely correct.
> I've just received a reply containing a spectacularly good example of 
> buck-passing.
>
> <quote reply>
> Sam
>
> Thank you for your report to FixMyStreet.
>
> Lighting is actually a concurrent power with the County Council, District 
> Councils and Parish Councils all being able to provide and maintain 
> lighting.  Whilst all of these authorities have these powers, not all of 
> them actually exercise them.
>
> The County Council can only exercise their lighting power on the Highway 
> and unfortunately the area in question does not form part of the Highway 
> and NCC cannot provide any lighting in this case.  However, it is possible 
> that King's Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council or the Parish Council may 
> be willing to provide lighting on this path.  You may therefore wish to 
> pursue this matter directly with them.
>
> I hope the above information is useful and I apologise that I cannot be 
> more helpful.
>
> Best Regards
> Stephen Littleboy
> Street Lighting Engineer
> Norfolk County Council

I don`t call that buck-passing.  It`s perfectly polite and factual.  At 
least they went to the trouble of replying and telling you exactly who IS 
responsible.

Pat
date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:25:36 GMT   author:   Pat P

Re: A Great Site   
Pat P wrote:
> "(not quite so) Fat Sam"  wrote in
> message news:0uqdnc1pSboOeZTanZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Oxymel of Squill wrote:
>>> In my experience reporting things to the Council only galvanises
>>> them into inventing a lie to tell you.  Fenland trespassed into my
>>> garden, vandalised my tree and stole the branches. Their response
>>> to me so far is to claim that there had been complaints about the
>>> overhanging branches and that the vandalism was done to British
>>> Standard whatever.  They haven't been able to produce the
>>> complaints, a local tree surgeon has said the work was badly done
>>> and not to any British Standard, and they haven't replied to my
>>> solicitor's letters. Easier complaining will only lead to easier lies
>>
>> It appears you are completely correct.
>> I've just received a reply containing a spectacularly good example of
>> buck-passing.
>>
>> <quote reply>
>> Sam
>>
>> Thank you for your report to FixMyStreet.
>>
>> Lighting is actually a concurrent power with the County Council,
>> District Councils and Parish Councils all being able to provide and
>> maintain lighting.  Whilst all of these authorities have these
>> powers, not all of them actually exercise them.
>>
>> The County Council can only exercise their lighting power on the
>> Highway and unfortunately the area in question does not form part of
>> the Highway and NCC cannot provide any lighting in this case. However, it 
>> is possible that King's Lynn & West Norfolk Borough
>> Council or the Parish Council may be willing to provide lighting on
>> this path.  You may therefore wish to pursue this matter directly
>> with them. I hope the above information is useful and I apologise that I 
>> cannot
>> be more helpful.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Stephen Littleboy
>> Street Lighting Engineer
>> Norfolk County Council
>
> I don`t call that buck-passing.  It`s perfectly polite and factual. At 
> least they went to the trouble of replying and telling you exactly
> who IS responsible.
>
> Pat

Ordinarily yes, but for the past 4 years now, the parish council, county 
council and borough council have all been passing the blame backwards and 
forwards for this one missing streetlight.
Now it must be the responsibility of one of them, but after 4 years, none of 
them are prepared to put their hands up and admit it's them.
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:36:19 +0100   author:   \(not quite so\) Fat Sam

Re: A Great Site   
"(not quite so) Fat Sam"  wrote in 
message news:wqqdneRvuoPurJfanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Pat P wrote:
>> "(not quite so) Fat Sam"  wrote in
>> message news:0uqdnc1pSboOeZTanZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Oxymel of Squill wrote:
>>>> In my experience reporting things to the Council only galvanises
>>>> them into inventing a lie to tell you.  Fenland trespassed into my
>>>> garden, vandalised my tree and stole the branches. Their response
>>>> to me so far is to claim that there had been complaints about the
>>>> overhanging branches and that the vandalism was done to British
>>>> Standard whatever.  They haven't been able to produce the
>>>> complaints, a local tree surgeon has said the work was badly done
>>>> and not to any British Standard, and they haven't replied to my
>>>> solicitor's letters. Easier complaining will only lead to easier lies
>>>
>>> It appears you are completely correct.
>>> I've just received a reply containing a spectacularly good example of
>>> buck-passing.
>>>
>>> <quote reply>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> Thank you for your report to FixMyStreet.
>>>
>>> Lighting is actually a concurrent power with the County Council,
>>> District Councils and Parish Councils all being able to provide and
>>> maintain lighting.  Whilst all of these authorities have these
>>> powers, not all of them actually exercise them.
>>>
>>> The County Council can only exercise their lighting power on the
>>> Highway and unfortunately the area in question does not form part of
>>> the Highway and NCC cannot provide any lighting in this case. However, 
>>> it is possible that King's Lynn & West Norfolk Borough
>>> Council or the Parish Council may be willing to provide lighting on
>>> this path.  You may therefore wish to pursue this matter directly
>>> with them. I hope the above information is useful and I apologise that I 
>>> cannot
>>> be more helpful.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Stephen Littleboy
>>> Street Lighting Engineer
>>> Norfolk County Council
>>
>> I don`t call that buck-passing.  It`s perfectly polite and factual. At 
>> least they went to the trouble of replying and telling you exactly
>> who IS responsible.
>>
>> Pat
>
> Ordinarily yes, but for the past 4 years now, the parish council, county 
> council and borough council have all been passing the blame backwards and 
> forwards for this one missing streetlight.
> Now it must be the responsibility of one of them, but after 4 years, none 
> of them are prepared to put their hands up and admit it's them.

I lived in a totally unlit village for 18 years, and to be honest felt far 
safer.  I work on the theory that if I can`t see them - they can`t see me! 
;-)  It was only "Incomers" who started agitating for streetlights - I`m 
glad to say that they still haven`t won, even 22 years after I moved away. 
Common sense prevailed!

The only fright I had was when I nipped up the lane to see a friend, and 
once I was out of range of our security light and in the "pitch black" I 
nearly died of fright when a voice at my shoulder said "Good evening Mrs 
P.....".

I was only our local bobby, who was very apologetic.  Had our security light 
not been on at all I would probably have seen him earlier, but my eyes 
hadn`t had time to become accustomed. LOL!

Pat
date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:20:23 GMT   author:   Pat P

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