Q.   why does Gorgon Broon walk on his hands ?

A.  So that his statements are not seen to be incontinence..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGe7n9j4_3g&feature=related

1.At The Cenotaph.

I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
Unostentatious and respectful, there
He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
        Men's biologic urge to readjust
            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.

Siegfried Sassoon.
Collected Poems 
1908 - 1956

(Faber & Faber)

I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
of to bed to have an early night.

Good night.

DB

"DB."  wrote in message news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>
> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
> Unostentatious and respectful, there
> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>
> Siegfried Sassoon.
> Collected Poems
> 1908 - 1956
>
> (Faber & Faber)
>
> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
> of to bed to have an early night.
>
> Good night.
>
> DB
>
It's off, not of.

Edith.

"DB."  wrote in message 
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> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>
> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
> Unostentatious and respectful, there
> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>
> Siegfried Sassoon.
> Collected Poems
> 1908 - 1956
>
> (Faber & Faber)

But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the 
war and became a consciencious objector? Or am I thinking of one of the 
other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)

>
> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
> of to bed to have an early night.
>
Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.

ally

I don't support war, unless our country is directly threatened.
Non of this, killing young people just in case we have made an enemy.

"Phister"  wrote in message news:dq2dnYRU5ZyhRWvXnZ2dnUVZ8t-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>I don't support war, unless our country is directly threatened.
> Non of this, killing young people just in case we have made an enemy.
We're perhaps threatened from afar?

Edith.

We are of greater threat from within.

"a l l y"  wrote:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message 
>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>
>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>
>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>> Collected Poems
>> 1908 - 1956
>>
>> (Faber & Faber)
>
>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the 
>war and became a consciencious objector? Or am I thinking of one of the 
>other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)

It is an anti-war poem. It says "the Devil wants war, but (a priori) the Devil
is evil, therefor war is evil."  

Of course, being an atheist, I can't do the double-think necessary to sort
the lumps out of that.

There's good and evil, and good is attributed to a god called "God", and
evil is attributed to a god called "Satan" who isn't a god. And the god of
good is also a god of war (eg, Samuel) but war is evil and the work of the
god of evil who isn't a god.

 :-/

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:41 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message 
>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>
>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>
>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>> Collected Poems
>> 1908 - 1956
>>
>> (Faber & Faber)
>
>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the 
>war and became a consciencious objector? 
>Or am I thinking of one of the other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)

The above poem IS one of the most anti-war poems ever
penned by any poet. That is why I posted it and why it is one
of my favourites. One does not need careful critical analysis
to see this. I am not inclined to do a remedial for you. Suffice it
to say that it is a poem loaded with irony and implication all 
constructed to add and emphasis it's anti-war message.
In my opinion worthy of a careful thought and critical full re-read. 
Give it a go. Consider the explicit and implicit symbolism and
the role they are called upon to play.

I am interested in the function of "But- - - " in your
first paragraph!

>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>
>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.

Hope you had a nice time.

DB

Edith,

I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
syntax and whatever next. 

But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))

DB

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:53:43 +0100, "The Traveller" 
wrote this:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>
>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>
>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>> Collected Poems
>> 1908 - 1956
>>
>> (Faber & Faber)
>>
>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>
>> Good night.
>>
>> DB
>>
>It's off, not of.
>
>Edith. 
>

"DB."  wrote in message 
news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
> Edith,
>
> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
> syntax and whatever next.
>
> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>
> DB
>
Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith 
actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this 
place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as 
you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well 
aware of her shortcomings.)

Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second, 
Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching 
American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite 
hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe 
just got a very good ear for language.

ally

"DB."  wrote in message 
news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:41 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>
>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>>
>>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>>
>>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>>> Collected Poems
>>> 1908 - 1956
>>>
>>> (Faber & Faber)
>>
>>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the
>>war and became a consciencious objector?
>>Or am I thinking of one of the other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)
>
> The above poem IS one of the most anti-war poems ever
> penned by any poet. That is why I posted it and why it is one
> of my favourites. One does not need careful critical analysis
> to see this. I am not inclined to do a remedial for you. Suffice it
> to say that it is a poem loaded with irony and implication all
> constructed to add and emphasis it's anti-war message.
> In my opinion worthy of a careful thought and critical full re-read.
> Give it a go. Consider the explicit and implicit symbolism and
> the role they are called upon to play.

OK, well it probably helps to read things when one isn't half asleep. I see 
your point(s) now that I'm awake and not in a hurry.
>
> I am interested in the function of "But- - - " in your
> first paragraph!
>
>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>
>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>
> Hope you had a nice time.
>
I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, and 
drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. Went to see the movie 
"Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe it's 
Doug.) Took photos of the sun shining on the early-morning frost on the 
Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) Saw 
friends, drank coffee, slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is the 
most boring place in Scotland.

ally

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:41:15 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message 
>news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:41 -0000, "a l l y"
>>   wrote this:
>>
>>>
>>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>>>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>>>
>>>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>>>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>>>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>>>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>>>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>>>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>>>
>>>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>>>> Collected Poems
>>>> 1908 - 1956
>>>>
>>>> (Faber & Faber)
>>>
>>>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the
>>>war and became a consciencious objector?
>>>Or am I thinking of one of the other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)
>>
>> The above poem IS one of the most anti-war poems ever
>> penned by any poet. That is why I posted it and why it is one
>> of my favourites. One does not need careful critical analysis
>> to see this. I am not inclined to do a remedial for you. Suffice it
>> to say that it is a poem loaded with irony and implication all
>> constructed to add and emphasis it's anti-war message.
>> In my opinion worthy of a careful thought and critical full re-read.
>> Give it a go. Consider the explicit and implicit symbolism and
>> the role they are called upon to play.
>
>OK, well it probably helps to read things when one isn't half asleep. I see 
>your point(s) now that I'm awake and not in a hurry.
>>
>> I am interested in the function of "But- - - " in your
>> first paragraph!
>>
>>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>>
>>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>>
>> Hope you had a nice time.
>>
>I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, and 
>drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. Went to see the movie 
>"Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe it's 
>Doug.) Took photos of the sun shining on the early-morning frost on the 
>Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) Saw 
>friends, drank coffee, slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is the 
>most boring place in Scotland.
>
>ally 
>

A very long time ago I spent an Autumn and at Ballochmyle. The house
made famous by "The Braes o' Ballochmyle" not to forget "The Lass o'
Ballochmyle" composed by a little known Ayrshire Customs and Excise 
man one Robert Burns. 
I grew to liked the gentle rolling green fields and hills. The coast was
certainly to my liking. Going over The Heads of Ayr was quite a delight. 
The social life was dead except at week-ends. They
were some thing else. Friday night to Saturday night never
been bettered any where else. Drinking singing and dancing
the pub life was terrific. I had a ball. I must admit I look back on those
days sometimes when life is a bit of a drudge with fondness. 
I liked the people very much and I think that's why, although the land
doesn't do much for me, I still have strong feelings for the place. Mind
you I would never settle there now. I would end up quite bored.
The daughter of a friend of mine spent a year at the new 
Ayr hospital and later in her career went back to spend three 
years there. Even bought a house in Ayr and spends her 
week-ends there. She now  works in Edinburgh! Started 
of not liking  Ayrshire! 

I sometimes forget my stay there except when things are
realy problematic, I look back on those week-ends and if
I had a time machine.......

DB

>
> A very long time ago I spent an Autumn and at Ballochmyle. The house
> made famous by "The Braes o' Ballochmyle" not to forget "The Lass o'
> Ballochmyle" composed by a little known Ayrshire Customs and Excise
> man one Robert Burns.
> I grew to liked the gentle rolling green fields and hills. The coast was
> certainly to my liking. Going over The Heads of Ayr was quite a delight.
> The social life was dead except at week-ends. They
> were some thing else. Friday night to Saturday night never
> been bettered any where else. Drinking singing and dancing
> the pub life was terrific. I had a ball. I must admit I look back on those
> days sometimes when life is a bit of a drudge with fondness.
> I liked the people very much and I think that's why, although the land
> doesn't do much for me, I still have strong feelings for the place. Mind
> you I would never settle there now. I would end up quite bored.
> The daughter of a friend of mine spent a year at the new
> Ayr hospital and later in her career went back to spend three
> years there. Even bought a house in Ayr and spends her
> week-ends there. She now  works in Edinburgh! Started
> of not liking  Ayrshire!
>
> I sometimes forget my stay there except when things are
> realy problematic, I look back on those week-ends and if
> I had a time machine.......
>
Sounds like you and Burns found similar pleasures in Ayrshire in your youth! 
I must agree that the people I've met from the area are very warm and I've 
always liked them - perhaps the duller one's surroundings, the nicer you 
become! (I found something similar when we visited Birmingham a few years 
ago - not exactly Britain's most beautiful city, but the locals made up for 
it by being really nice and friendly.) The Ayrshire coast always looks 
promising, and the beaches look nice and sandy, but I always feel there's 
something lacking. Mind you, it was late afternoon by the time I got there 
yesterday. The sun had vanished behind clouds and a mist was falling, so 
there wasn't a lot to see really. Maybe when I go back with his finished 
chairs I'll manage to pick a sunny day!

ally

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:45:23 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>The Ayrshire coast always looks promising, and the beaches 
>look nice and sandy, but I always feel there's something lacking.

What an interesting thing to say! 

Precisely my own feeling. I can never put my finger on what it
is I felt I should experience or why I feel that there is something
missing. I get the same feeling looking at photographs both my
own and the images of others with a more discerning eye. 

If my local wicca is to be believed it's because I lived there in
a previous life and a part of my previous "personality" is looking
for old friends and loved ones. This of course takes place on
pre-conscious level which my present "personality" is unaware
of. Except for those odd feelings about something missing!!

After careful consideration I dismissed this explanation. { ; -- )))

It's a miserable morning up here. Misty, damp and cold.
I'm going to be standing around for anything up to a 
couple of hours. Mind you I have the consolation of
"central heating" from my hip flask!

DB

"DB."  wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:45:23 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>The Ayrshire coast always looks promising, and the beaches
>>look nice and sandy, but I always feel there's something lacking.
>
> What an interesting thing to say!
>
> Precisely my own feeling. I can never put my finger on what it
> is I felt I should experience or why I feel that there is something
> missing. I get the same feeling looking at photographs both my
> own and the images of others with a more discerning eye.

Personally I think it's just that I expect coastal areas to be photogenic. I 
get my camera out, go for a walk along the promenade, the harbour, or 
whatever happens to be there, and look for things to photograph. The 
Ayrshire coast offers few of these sort of sights (or at least the bits I've 
visited).

>
> If my local wicca is to be believed it's because I lived there in
> a previous life and a part of my previous "personality" is looking
> for old friends and loved ones. This of course takes place on
> pre-conscious level which my present "personality" is unaware
> of. Except for those odd feelings about something missing!!

I do like those sort of explanations! Ok, I know, it's nonsense, but I like 
it. And who knows, anyway? It's not something that's disprovable by science. 
Sometimes I visit a new place, and immediately feel an affinity for it. It 
feels like I'm coming home, but I can't explain why. Paris gets me that way, 
and so does Perthshire.

>
> After careful consideration I dismissed this explanation. { ; -- )))

In order to be considered a rational being, I guess one has to, but still 
...

>
> It's a miserable morning up here. Misty, damp and cold.
> I'm going to be standing around for anything up to a
> couple of hours. Mind you I have the consolation of
> "central heating" from my hip flask!
>
It's lovely here! Chilly, but bright and sunny and I wish I didn't have to 
work!

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7lu850F3fb0g3U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "DB."  wrote in message news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>> Edith,
>>
>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>> syntax and whatever next.

aww, gowan. Correct them. Maybe I'll learn somehting
>>
>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>
>> DB

No. Not at all, DB. Just now and then and mostly, always ;)
>>
> Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith actually uses the English language these days is when 
> she's visiting this place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as you've noticed, she makes plenty 
> of her own, but to be fair, she's well aware of her shortcomings.)

Actually, I don't really care about my short comings, Ally. They used to turn me red but now I don't care anymore. If I do pick up a 
few good points once in a while, I'm happy enough. I guess it comes with aging.

Me! Short comings? I don't have short comings. I'm, errrm, errrrrm, oh, I just can't remember the word.
>
> Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second, Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by 
> watching American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite hard to believe as his English is very good 
> indeed, but I guess he's maybe just got a very good ear for language.
>
> ally
>
He has nice ears. Oh, I lurv his ears, nibble, nibble. OOOOOOOOOOoooorrrly! Orrly! Where are you? Come here a 
bit.................Dam! He's gone to work again.

Edith.

btw. The snow has gone :))))))))))) and I can't believe it, my dark violet pansies are still blooming.They have closed their petals 
to 6 below zero several times and bloomed again during the days. I have them standing under the roof, on the step by the big 
windows.

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7lu8gdF3at8ncU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "DB."  wrote in message news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:41 -0000, "a l l y"
>>   wrote this:
>>
>>>
>>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>>>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>>>
>>>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>>>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>>>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>>>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>>>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>>>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>>>
>>>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>>>> Collected Poems
>>>> 1908 - 1956
>>>>
>>>> (Faber & Faber)
>>>
>>>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the
>>>war and became a consciencious objector?
>>>Or am I thinking of one of the other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)
>>
>> The above poem IS one of the most anti-war poems ever
>> penned by any poet. That is why I posted it and why it is one
>> of my favourites. One does not need careful critical analysis
>> to see this. I am not inclined to do a remedial for you. Suffice it
>> to say that it is a poem loaded with irony and implication all
>> constructed to add and emphasis it's anti-war message.
>> In my opinion worthy of a careful thought and critical full re-read.
>> Give it a go. Consider the explicit and implicit symbolism and
>> the role they are called upon to play.
>
> OK, well it probably helps to read things when one isn't half asleep. I see your point(s) now that I'm awake and not in a hurry.
>>
>> I am interested in the function of "But- - - " in your
>> first paragraph!
>>
>>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>>
>>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>>
>> Hope you had a nice time.
>>
> I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, and drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. 
> Went to see the movie "Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe it's Doug.) Took photos of the sun shining 
> on the early-morning frost on the Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) Saw friends, drank coffee, 
> slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is the most boring place in Scotland.
>
> ally
From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
Selling her chairs to the woman and man
Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
Ally can.

Edith.

"DB."  wrote in message news:6tsjf5drtg5ecumn0ll9pu3arnd8p3pmbv@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:41:15 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>
>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:41 -0000, "a l l y"
>>>   wrote this:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>>>news:tb2cf5hh7g2pu9fmmuimg7hilsle7dpr0b@4ax.com...
>>>>> 1.At The Cenotaph.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw the Prince of Darkness, with his Staff,
>>>>> Standing bare-headed at the Cenotaph:
>>>>> Unostentatious and respectful, there
>>>>> He stood, and offered up the following prayer.
>>>>>        'Make them forget, O Lord, what this Memorial
>>>>>            Means; their discredited ideas revive;
>>>>>        Breed new belief that  War is purgatorial
>>>>>            Proof of the pride and power of being alive;
>>>>>        Men's biologic urge to readjust
>>>>>            the Map of Europe, Lord of Hosts. increase;
>>>>>        Lift up their hearts in large destructive lust;
>>>>>            And crown their heads with blind vindictive Peace.'
>>>>> The Prince of Darkness to the Cenotaph
>>>>> Bowed. As he walked away I heard him laugh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Siegfried Sassoon.
>>>>> Collected Poems
>>>>> 1908 - 1956
>>>>>
>>>>> (Faber & Faber)
>>>>
>>>>But wasn't it Siegfried Sassoon who changed his mind half way through the
>>>>war and became a consciencious objector?
>>>>Or am I thinking of one of the other war poets? (I'm easily confused.)
>>>
>>> The above poem IS one of the most anti-war poems ever
>>> penned by any poet. That is why I posted it and why it is one
>>> of my favourites. One does not need careful critical analysis
>>> to see this. I am not inclined to do a remedial for you. Suffice it
>>> to say that it is a poem loaded with irony and implication all
>>> constructed to add and emphasis it's anti-war message.
>>> In my opinion worthy of a careful thought and critical full re-read.
>>> Give it a go. Consider the explicit and implicit symbolism and
>>> the role they are called upon to play.
>>
>>OK, well it probably helps to read things when one isn't half asleep. I see
>>your point(s) now that I'm awake and not in a hurry.
>>>
>>> I am interested in the function of "But- - - " in your
>>> first paragraph!
>>>
>>>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>>>
>>>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>>>
>>> Hope you had a nice time.
>>>
>>I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, and
>>drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. Went to see the movie
>>"Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe it's
>>Doug.) Took photos of the sun shining on the early-morning frost on the
>>Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) Saw
>>friends, drank coffee, slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is the
>>most boring place in Scotland.
>>
>>ally
>>
>
> A very long time ago I spent an Autumn and at Ballochmyle. The house
> made famous by "The Braes o' Ballochmyle" not to forget "The Lass o'
> Ballochmyle" composed by a little known Ayrshire Customs and Excise
> man one Robert Burns.
> I grew to liked the gentle rolling green fields and hills. The coast was
> certainly to my liking. Going over The Heads of Ayr was quite a delight.
> The social life was dead except at week-ends. They
> were some thing else. Friday night to Saturday night never
> been bettered any where else. Drinking singing and dancing
> the pub life was terrific. I had a ball. I must admit I look back on those
> days sometimes when life is a bit of a drudge with fondness.
> I liked the people very much and I think that's why, although the land
> doesn't do much for me, I still have strong feelings for the place. Mind
> you I would never settle there now. I would end up quite bored.
> The daughter of a friend of mine spent a year at the new
> Ayr hospital and later in her career went back to spend three
> years there. Even bought a house in Ayr and spends her
> week-ends there. She now  works in Edinburgh! Started
> of not liking  Ayrshire!
>
> I sometimes forget my stay there except when things are
> realy problematic, I look back on those week-ends and if
> I had a time machine.......
>
> DB

I have relations in Ayr and a cousin in Edinburgh. I don't know them anymore. I only have good childhood memories from there, that I 
still cherish. My auntie married a nice man from............oh, well, that's in the past. I'll put it away in a special envelope 
marked - nice memories of Scotland.

Shee didnae start of-she started off-

Edith-hiding in the bushes.

"DB."  wrote in message news:p1lkf59hd8b5t25qhlrd3c6ib6n491vb1a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:45:23 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>The Ayrshire coast always looks promising, and the beaches
>>look nice and sandy, but I always feel there's something lacking.
>
> What an interesting thing to say!
>
> Precisely my own feeling. I can never put my finger on what it
> is I felt I should experience or why I feel that there is something
> missing. I get the same feeling looking at photographs both my
> own and the images of others with a more discerning eye.
>
> If my local wicca is to be believed it's because I lived there in
> a previous life and a part of my previous "personality" is looking
> for old friends and loved ones. This of course takes place on
> pre-conscious level which my present "personality" is unaware
> of. Except for those odd feelings about something missing!!
>
> After careful consideration I dismissed this explanation. { ; -- )))
>
> It's a miserable morning up here. Misty, damp and cold.
> I'm going to be standing around for anything up to a
> couple of hours. Mind you I have the consolation of
> "central heating" from my hip flask!
>
> DB
>
What you mat be missing is your youth. We only get one chance at that and being immature, we usually mess it up. That's life. 
Otherwise, on a sandy Ayrshire beach, one would feel the other side of the ocean calling and miss what is there.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
news:4afa9282$1@news.broadpark.no...
>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:7lu850F3fb0g3U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "DB."  wrote in message 
>> news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>>> Edith,
>>>
>>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather 
>>> concentrate
>>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>>> syntax and whatever next.
>
> aww, gowan. Correct them. Maybe I'll learn somehting
>>>
>>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>>
>>> DB
>
> No. Not at all, DB. Just now and then and mostly, always ;)
>>>
>> Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith 
>> actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this 
>> place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And 
>> as you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's 
>> well aware of her shortcomings.)
>
> Actually, I don't really care about my short comings, Ally. They used to 
> turn me red but now I don't care >anymore. If I do pick up a few good 
> points once in a while, I'm happy enough. I guess it comes with aging.

I think you're amazing, speaking Norwegian all the time but still managing 
to communicate in English. There's a sort of charming foreignness about the 
way you write, but that just makes you more enigmatic and interesting.


>
> Me! Short comings? I don't have short comings. I'm, errrm, errrrrm, oh, I 
> just can't remember the word.
>>
Yes, of course, your comings are exceedingly long.


>> Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second, 
>> Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching 
>> American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this 
>> quite hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess 
>> he's maybe just got a very good ear for language.
>>
>> ally
>>
> He has nice ears. Oh, I lurv his ears, nibble, nibble. 
> OOOOOOOOOOoooorrrly! Orrly! Where are you? Come here a 
> bit.................Dam! He's gone to work again.
>
> Edith.
>
> btw. The snow has gone :))))))))))) and I can't believe it, my dark violet 
> pansies are still blooming.They have closed their petals to 6 below zero 
> several times and bloomed again during the days. I have them standing 
> under the roof, on the step by the big windows.
Tough old pansies, eh?

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
news:4afa943f$1@news.broadpark.no...
>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:7lu8gdF3at8ncU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "DB."  wrote in message 
>> news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...

>>>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>>>
>>>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>>>
>>> Hope you had a nice time.
>>>
>> I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, 
>> and drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. Went to see the 
>> movie "Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe 
>> it's Doug.) Took photos of the sun shining on the early-morning frost on 
>> the Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) 
>> Saw friends, drank coffee, slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is 
>> the most boring place in Scotland.
>>
>> ally
> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
> Ally can.
>

"Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.

ally

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m025fF3f8k4nU1@mid.individual.net...
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:4afa943f$1@news.broadpark.no...
>>
>> "a l l y"  wrote in message news:7lu8gdF3at8ncU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "DB."  wrote in message news:mpajf5dfekcl6amdi6kgqgd2tndlolgtlm@4ax.com...
>
>>>>>> I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow, so I am
>>>>>> of to bed to have an early night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Me, I'm off to Edinburgh in a wee while. See you all on Monday night.
>>>>
>>>> Hope you had a nice time.
>>>>
>>> I did. The sun shone. I delivered newly-caned chairs to some customers, and drove all the way to Ardrossan to pick up some more. 
>>> Went to see the movie "Up" in 3D. (It's good! Look out for the dog called Dug. Or maybe it's Doug.) Took photos of the sun 
>>> shining on the early-morning frost on the Meadows. (I'll provide a link to these once I've sorted them out.) Saw friends, drank 
>>> coffee, slept like a log, and decided that Ayrshire is the most boring place in Scotland.
>>>
>>> ally
>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>> Ally can.
>>
>
> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>
> ally
Ally can CanCan :0)

Edith

ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.

>>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>>> Ally can.
>>>
>>
>> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>>
>> ally
> Ally can CanCan :0)
>
> Edith
>
> ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.
Heh. Ally & Edith can!

ally

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second, 
>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching 
>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. 

I wish I had been taught English that way. I would have enjoyed more.

DB

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message 
>news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>> Edith,
>>
>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>> syntax and whatever next.
>>
>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>
>> DB
>>
>Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith 
>actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this 
>place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as 
>you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well 
>aware of her shortcomings.)
>
>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second, 
>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching 
>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite 
>hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe 
>just got a very good ear for language.
>
>ally 
>

I was attempting to encourage Edith to focus on the topic, the substance,
of the post and away from the format and use of English. I find it more
interesting in a post to consider the intellectual content, in other words
the opinions expressed. I rarely if ever indulge in correcting any ones
spelling, grammar or syntax because for me it is the opinion I find
worth concentrating on. And I am far from being literate myself. I was
going to include one of my tutors comments on an essay I produced. But that
might reveal too much.

I am on record, in this group, congratulating and encouraging Edith to
indulge her lateral thought processes on the topic which the poster
wishes us to address. I really do enjoy working on her stuff. It's so
refreshing.

You must admit she does produce some stoating stuff!!

DB

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:18:17 -0000, "a l l y"
  wrote this:

>>>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>>>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>>>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>>>> Ally can.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>>>
>>> ally
>> Ally can CanCan :0)
>>
>> Edith
>>
>> ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.
>Heh. Ally & Edith can!
>
>ally 
>

What about a double act eg Ally & Edith Knock About Comics?

DB

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m09upF3e9uueU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>>>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>>>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>>>> Ally can.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>>>
>>> ally
>> Ally can CanCan :0)
>>
>> Edith
>>
>> ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.
> Heh. Ally & Edith can!
>
> ally
>
I cancan and you canan and I can --- not remeber any more

Edith

"DB."  wrote in message news:hsslf556ef7vr0r6r96c0muidnohbo7l4r@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>
>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>>> Edith,
>>>
>>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
>>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>>> syntax and whatever next.
>>>
>>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith
>>actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this
>>place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as
>>you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well
>>aware of her shortcomings.)
>>
>>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second,
>>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching
>>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite
>>hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe
>>just got a very good ear for language.
>>
>>ally
>>
>
> I was attempting to encourage Edith to focus on the topic, the substance,
> of the post and away from the format and use of English.

Bluddyell. You're not asking for much, are you.

I find it more
> interesting in a post to consider the intellectual content, in other words
> the opinions expressed. I rarely if ever indulge in correcting any ones
> spelling, grammar or syntax because for me it is the opinion I find
> worth concentrating on. And I am far from being literate myself. I was
> going to include one of my tutors comments on an essay I produced. But that
> might reveal too much.
>
I'd like to read it, DB.

> I am on record, in this group, congratulating and encouraging Edith to
> indulge her lateral thought processes on the topic which the poster
> wishes us to address. I really do enjoy working on her stuff. It's so
> refreshing.
>
> You must admit she does produce some stoating stuff!!
>
> DB

Are you feeling ok, DB? You're sure you don't need a doctor? or a shrink, maybe?

Stoatingly, Edith.

btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, with 
my winter tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared ahead of 
me at the empty walls, none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked both ways (because I almost got 
flattened at that place once before,)and crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh cream, now I am going 
to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big cream cakes. :0)

"DB."  wrote in message 
news:hsslf556ef7vr0r6r96c0muidnohbo7l4r@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>
>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>>> Edith,
>>>
>>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather 
>>> concentrate
>>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>>> syntax and whatever next.
>>>
>>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith
>>actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this
>>place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And 
>>as
>>you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well
>>aware of her shortcomings.)
>>
>>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second,
>>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching
>>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite
>>hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe
>>just got a very good ear for language.
>>
>>ally
>>
>
> I was attempting to encourage Edith to focus on the topic, the substance,
> of the post and away from the format and use of English. I find it more
> interesting in a post to consider the intellectual content, in other words
> the opinions expressed. I rarely if ever indulge in correcting any ones
> spelling, grammar or syntax because for me it is the opinion I find
> worth concentrating on.

I always feel it's a bit rude, correcting people's mistakes online, unless 
they're making some sort of big issue about how perfect their use of 
language is. Otherwise I think most people just pay attention to the content 
rather than the syntax.

> And I am far from being literate myself. I was
> going to include one of my tutors comments on an essay I produced. But 
> that
> might reveal too much.

Oh come on now - you're just tantalising us! Let us see it!
>
> I am on record, in this group, congratulating and encouraging Edith to
> indulge her lateral thought processes on the topic which the poster
> wishes us to address. I really do enjoy working on her stuff. It's so
> refreshing.

Why d'you think this group, of all the uk.local groups, has kept going, so 
full of life? I'd hate Edith's head to get too big, but she must have 
something to do with it ...

>
> You must admit she does produce some stoating stuff!!
>
Absolutely!

ally

>
> btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. 
> That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, with my winter 
> tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a 
> cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared ahead of me at the empty walls, 
> none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked 
> both ways (because I almost got flattened at that place once before,)and 
> crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh cream, 
> now I am going to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big cream 
> cakes. :0)

There you are, you see - if you take care to avoid accidents, they're less 
likely to happen, and you're free to go home and eat cream cakes.

ally

"DB."  wrote in message 
news:8nulf59d8grd9d3cpcrgvkcuio457483lk@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:18:17 -0000, "a l l y"
>   wrote this:
>
>>>>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>>>>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>>>>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>>>>> Ally can.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>>>>
>>>> ally
>>> Ally can CanCan :0)
>>>
>>> Edith
>>>
>>> ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.
>>Heh. Ally & Edith can!
>>
>>ally
>>
>
> What about a double act eg Ally & Edith Knock About Comics?
>
Yeah! A new strip for the Beano!

ally

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:45:49 +0100, "The Traveller" 
wrote this:

>
>"DB."  wrote in message news:hsslf556ef7vr0r6r96c0muidnohbo7l4r@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
>>   wrote this:
>>
>>>
>>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>>news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>>>> Edith,
>>>>
>>>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
>>>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>>>> syntax and whatever next.
>>>>
>>>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>>>
>>>> DB
>>>>
>>>Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith
>>>actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this
>>>place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as
>>>you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well
>>>aware of her shortcomings.)
>>>
>>>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second,
>>>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching
>>>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite
>>>hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe
>>>just got a very good ear for language.
>>>
>>>ally
>>>
>>
>> I was attempting to encourage Edith to focus on the topic, the substance,
>> of the post and away from the format and use of English.
>
>Bluddyell. You're not asking for much, are you.
>
>I find it more
>> interesting in a post to consider the intellectual content, in other words
>> the opinions expressed. I rarely if ever indulge in correcting any ones
>> spelling, grammar or syntax because for me it is the opinion I find
>> worth concentrating on. And I am far from being literate myself. I was
>> going to include one of my tutors comments on an essay I produced. But that
>> might reveal too much.
>>
>I'd like to read it, DB.
>
>> I am on record, in this group, congratulating and encouraging Edith to
>> indulge her lateral thought processes on the topic which the poster
>> wishes us to address. I really do enjoy working on her stuff. It's so
>> refreshing.
>>
>> You must admit she does produce some stoating stuff!!
>>
>> DB
>
>Are you feeling ok, DB? You're sure you don't need a doctor? or a shrink, maybe?

Well! Some of my friends think a spell on the couch would do me good.
My first daugher-in-law refers to me as the "anachronism". She has voiced
her concerns about my grasp on the 20th century. In fact she swung the vote
in favour of getting me to agree to carrying a mobile phone when I go out
onto the hill. You may well have something there!

>
>btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, with 
>my winter tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared ahead of 
>me at the empty walls, none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked both ways (because I almost got 
>flattened at that place once before,)and crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh cream, now I am going 
>to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big cream cakes. :0) 
>

A little bit of care gets you there. I bet the car was pleased!

Whipped cream,  cake=Kake?, pears and peaches.....and I'm on 
diet to get another stone out of the way. Salads, no cheese, no puddings

Brown Madeira sugar, I used to have that in my black coffee (with a dash,
or two, of whiskey.) Sometimes a layer of cream! Not often mind. 
All gone until I get rid of another stone! 

DB

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m13acF3fcpudU1@mid.individual.net...
> "DB."  wrote in message news:hsslf556ef7vr0r6r96c0muidnohbo7l4r@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:35:10 -0000, "a l l y"
>>   wrote this:
>>
>>>
>>>"DB."  wrote in message
>>>news:mpbjf5lk0tgr7u34i0362p8dn2o0vf4ful@4ax.com...
>>>> Edith,
>>>>
>>>> I will refrain from correcting your "mistakes". I would rather concentrate
>>>> on the contents of the post. I suppose you will be on about grammar
>>>> syntax and whatever next.
>>>>
>>>> But then as a woman you MUST always be right. { : -- ))
>>>>
>>>> DB
>>>>
>>>Actually, when you consider that, living in Norway, the only time Edith
>>>actually uses the English language these days is when she's visiting this
>>>place, I'm amazed she's capable of noticing anyone else's mistakes! (And as
>>>you've noticed, she makes plenty of her own, but to be fair, she's well
>>>aware of her shortcomings.)
>>>
>>>Incidentally, Orly, whose first language is Spanish, and his second,
>>>Norwegian, once told me that he learned English entirely by watching
>>>American movies and playing and listening to rock music. I find this quite
>>>hard to believe as his English is very good indeed, but I guess he's maybe
>>>just got a very good ear for language.
>>>
>>>ally
>>>
>>
>> I was attempting to encourage Edith to focus on the topic, the substance,
>> of the post and away from the format and use of English. I find it more
>> interesting in a post to consider the intellectual content, in other words
>> the opinions expressed. I rarely if ever indulge in correcting any ones
>> spelling, grammar or syntax because for me it is the opinion I find
>> worth concentrating on.
>
> I always feel it's a bit rude, correcting people's mistakes online, unless they're making some sort of big issue about how perfect 
> their use of language is. Otherwise I think most people just pay attention to the content rather than the syntax.
>
>> And I am far from being literate myself. I was
>> going to include one of my tutors comments on an essay I produced. But that
>> might reveal too much.
>
> Oh come on now - you're just tantalising us! Let us see it!
>>
>> I am on record, in this group, congratulating and encouraging Edith to
>> indulge her lateral thought processes on the topic which the poster
>> wishes us to address. I really do enjoy working on her stuff. It's so
>> refreshing.
>
> Why d'you think this group, of all the uk.local groups, has kept going, so full of life? I'd hate Edith's head to get too big, but 
> she must have something to do with it ...

My head is OK, I think.
>
>>
>> You must admit she does produce some stoating stuff!!
>>
> Absolutely!
>
> ally
>

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m13cnF3d96t1U1@mid.individual.net...
> >
>> btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, 
>> with my winter tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared 
>> ahead of me at the empty walls, none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked both ways (because I 
>> almost got flattened at that place once before,)and crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh cream, 
>> now I am going to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big cream cakes. :0)
>
> There you are, you see - if you take care to avoid accidents, they're less likely to happen, and you're free to go home and eat 
> cream cakes.
>
> ally
>
lol to meself. I meant pears. As for accidents, they just happen, nomatter what one does.

Edith

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m13edF3d2o2qU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "DB."  wrote in message news:8nulf59d8grd9d3cpcrgvkcuio457483lk@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:18:17 -0000, "a l l y"
>>   wrote this:
>>
>>>>>> From the macabre Prince of Darkness to a sunny day in Edinburgh
>>>>>> Selling her chairs to the woman and man
>>>>>> Lighting up the darkness of the shadows of distruction
>>>>>> Ally can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ally can!" That's a good motto. I like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ally
>>>> Ally can CanCan :0)
>>>>
>>>> Edith
>>>>
>>>> ps. We've managed to keep uklc going today too.
>>>Heh. Ally & Edith can!
>>>
>>>ally
>>>
>>
>> What about a double act eg Ally & Edith Knock About Comics?
>>
> Yeah! A new strip for the Beano!
>
> ally
Yeah. Ally can say, 'ock, ma wee hen, ye canae get a denner here, juist a cup o' tea in yer haund. Esk the waitah if we can have a 
fish suppah.'

Then I'll come in with a napkin ovver me 'arm and say, 'I'm no 'en, I'm a sping chicken und all yuh can 'ave is a slap on yer 
kisser.'

oh oh oh.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:7m13cnF3d96t1U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >
>>> btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. 
>>> That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, with my winter 
>>> tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a 
>>> cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared ahead of me at the empty walls, 
>>> none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked 
>>> both ways (because I almost got flattened at that place once before,)and 
>>> crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh 
>>> cream, now I am going to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big 
>>> cream cakes. :0)
>>
>> There you are, you see - if you take care to avoid accidents, they're 
>> less likely to happen, and you're free to go home and eat cream cakes.
>>
>> ally
>>
> lol to meself. I meant pears. As for accidents, they just happen, nomatter 
> what one does.
>

I know what you meant! I love your imaginative spelling.

As for accidents, though, they don't just happen - not usually. Most 
accidents could have been prevented if people had taken more care. We stop 
taking care with things we do regularly - we don't think about how we're 
doing them any more, and then we bang our head on an unexpectedly open 
cupboard door, or slip on a step that didn't have ice or wet leaves on it 
yesterday, or fall off a chair that we carelessly put on a wobbly piece of 
floor, or burn our fingers when we make a grab for something that turns out 
to be hotter than we expected, or ...

A lot of my minor mishaps occur because I'm a bit smaller than I should be 
for the world around me. (You must have the same problem, Edith!) Sometimes 
I can't be bothered finding something to stand on, and try to reach 
something on a high shelf, and end up knocking everything off the shelf. 
Things are designed for the "average" person who must be about 5'-6" or 
more, while we're about 5'-3".

ally

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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> My head is OK, I think.
>>

Hmmm....

ally

"DB."  wrote in message news:pbsmf5ljiosp2f15nooo8pptuf8cq6lnot@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:45:49 +0100, "The Traveller" 
> wrote this:

>>Are you feeling ok, DB? You're sure you don't need a doctor? or a shrink, maybe?
>
> Well! Some of my friends think a spell on the couch would do me good.
> My first daugher-in-law refers to me as the "anachronism". She has voiced
> her concerns about my grasp on the 20th century. In fact she swung the vote
> in favour of getting me to agree to carrying a mobile phone when I go out
> onto the hill. You may well have something there!

I hope you take it with you. You never know, you know. I'm quite serious
>
> Whipped cream,  cake=Kake?, pears and peaches.....and I'm on
> diet to get another stone out of the way. Salads, no cheese, no puddings

Just what I need. I bought salad yesterday, ate it then ate a lot of chocolate. I'm so disappointed in myself.
>
> Brown Madeira sugar, I used to have that in my black coffee (with a dash,
> or two, of whiskey.) Sometimes a layer of cream! Not often mind.
> All gone until I get rid of another stone!
>
> DB

Oh! OH! I have all the in ingredients. Just a 
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"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m270pF3frb4jU1@mid.individual.net...
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:4afbd74f$1@news.broadpark.no...
>>
>> "a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m13cnF3d96t1U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >
>>>> btw, I reversed my car out of the garage today without hitting anything. That's a blooming miracle. And I drove to the village, 
>>>> with my winter tyres on and had a cup of black coffee in The Café Stova and sucked on a cube of brown Madeira sugar and stared 
>>>> ahead of me at the empty walls, none of my paintings hanging there. Then I descended the 3 steps, looked both ways (because I 
>>>> almost got flattened at that place once before,)and crossed the road and bought 4 kake bonner and four cartons of fresh cream, 
>>>> now I am going to whip cream and have pairs and peaches in big cream cakes. :0)
>>>
>>> There you are, you see - if you take care to avoid accidents, they're less likely to happen, and you're free to go home and eat 
>>> cream cakes.
>>>
>>> ally
>>>
>> lol to meself. I meant pears. As for accidents, they just happen, nomatter what one does.
>>
>
> I know what you meant! I love your imaginative spelling.
>
> As for accidents, though, they don't just happen - not usually. Most accidents could have been prevented if people had taken more 
> care. We stop taking care with things we do regularly - we don't think about how we're doing them any more, and then we bang our 
> head on an unexpectedly open cupboard door,

That's a classic, Ally. I do it every day.

or slip on a step that didn't have ice or wet leaves on it
> yesterday, or fall off a chair that we carelessly put on a wobbly piece of floor, or burn our fingers when we make a grab for 
> something that turns out to be hotter than we expected, or ...

Have you tried the stool up in the polstered armchair, while hanging curtains? That's a sure one
>
> A lot of my minor mishaps occur because I'm a bit smaller than I should be for the world around me. (You must have the same 
> problem, Edith!) Sometimes I can't be bothered finding something to stand on, and try to reach something on a high shelf, and end 
> up knocking everything off the shelf. Things are designed for the "average" person who must be about 5'-6" or more, while we're 
> about 5'-3".
>
> ally
>
Yup, You've been there too and you are taller than I.

Edith-short arse-tracks in the snow.

"a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m2721F3fpdmmU1@mid.individual.net...
> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:4afbd6d2@news.broadpark.no...
>
>
>> My head is OK, I think.
>>>
>
> Hmmm....
>
> ally
>
LOL. You're confused.

Edith.

"The Traveller"  wrote in message 
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>
> "a l l y"  wrote in message 
> news:7m270pF3frb4jU1@mid.individual.net...

>>
>> As for accidents, though, they don't just happen - not usually. Most 
>> accidents could have been prevented if people had taken more care. We 
>> stop taking care with things we do regularly - we don't think about how 
>> we're doing them any more, and then we bang our head on an unexpectedly 
>> open cupboard door,
>
> That's a classic, Ally. I do it every day.

At least we have hair on our heads to protect us. I know an elderly gent 
with no protective hair who does this on a regular basis - he's always got 
injuries on his bald head, poor chap.
>
> or slip on a step that didn't have ice or wet leaves on it
>> yesterday, or fall off a chair that we carelessly put on a wobbly piece 
>> of floor, or burn our fingers when we make a grab for something that 
>> turns out to be hotter than we expected, or ...
>
> Have you tried the stool up in the polstered armchair, while hanging 
> curtains? That's a sure one
>
Well next time I want to hurt myself deliberately, I'll try that. I normally 
use a nice secure pair of steps for jobs like these, though, as I prefer not 
to get hurt.
>
>>
>> A lot of my minor mishaps occur because I'm a bit smaller than I should 
>> be for the world around me. (You must have the same problem, Edith!) 
>> Sometimes I can't be bothered finding something to stand on, and try to 
>> reach something on a high shelf, and end up knocking everything off the 
>> shelf. Things are designed for the "average" person who must be about 
>> 5'-6" or more, while we're about 5'-3".
>>
>> ally
>>
> Yup, You've been there too and you are taller than I.
>
> Edith-short arse-tracks in the snow.
Q. What did they call the cowboy with short legs?
/
/
/
/
/
/
A. He was a low-down bum.
>
>
ally

>
>

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> "The Traveller"  wrote in message news:4afbf9c0$1@news.broadpark.no...
>>
>> "a l l y"  wrote in message news:7m270pF3frb4jU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>>>
>>> As for accidents, though, they don't just happen - not usually. Most accidents could have been prevented if people had taken 
>>> more care. We stop taking care with things we do regularly - we don't think about how we're doing them any more, and then we 
>>> bang our head on an unexpectedly open cupboard door,
>>
>> That's a classic, Ally. I do it every day.
>
> At least we have hair on our heads to protect us. I know an elderly gent with no protective hair who does this on a regular 
> basis - he's always got injuries on his bald head, poor chap.
>>
>> or slip on a step that didn't have ice or wet leaves on it
>>> yesterday, or fall off a chair that we carelessly put on a wobbly piece of floor, or burn our fingers when we make a grab for 
>>> something that turns out to be hotter than we expected, or ...
>>
>> Have you tried the stool up in the polstered armchair, while hanging curtains? That's a sure one
>>
> Well next time I want to hurt myself deliberately, I'll try that. I normally use a nice secure pair of steps for jobs like these, 
> though, as I prefer not to get hurt.
>>
>>>
>>> A lot of my minor mishaps occur because I'm a bit smaller than I should be for the world around me. (You must have the same 
>>> problem, Edith!) Sometimes I can't be bothered finding something to stand on, and try to reach something on a high shelf, and 
>>> end up knocking everything off the shelf. Things are designed for the "average" person who must be about 5'-6" or more, while 
>>> we're about 5'-3".
>>>
>>> ally
>>>
>> Yup, You've been there too and you are taller than I.
>>
>> Edith-short arse-tracks in the snow.
> Q. What did they call the cowboy with short legs?
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> A. He was a low-down bum.
>>
>>
> ally
>
>>
>>
>
>
:0)))))))))))))))))

Edith.