"Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware business.

The application, which was filed in August, covers home consoles, 
controllers, and "video game interactive controller, namely, hand held 
pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer cursor 
control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; video game 
software, computer game programs."

This may be nothing more than an effort by Sega to protect the Dreamcast 
brand, though apparently the original trademark filing for the name is 
still active. It's interesting to note the differences between the two 
filings, however, in particular the "floor pads or mats."

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/rumor-sega-pond.html

Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
made my heart skip a little bit.

There is a nice little fantasy piece on the Dreamcast 2 here too:

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9829092-1.html

It is my hope that the Dreamcast will eventually make a return of sorts 
via a DLC service on the PS3 or 360 in the near future.

Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware business.

Yeah, because Sega suddenly found a few billions extra under the sofa
cushions and decided to single-handedly take on a market that is
completely covered top-to-bottom. That is far more likely than the
mundane fact that you have to periodically renew registration of
trademarks.

-a

Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote:
> Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
>> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
>> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware business.
> 
> Yeah, because Sega suddenly found a few billions extra under the sofa
> cushions and decided to single-handedly take on a market that is
> completely covered top-to-bottom. That is far more likely than the
> mundane fact that you have to periodically renew registration of
> trademarks.

A shame you didn't read my post properly.  If you had you would have 
seen this part:

"Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
made my heart skip a little bit."

My apologies for feeling a little nostalgic about a great console and 
trying to spark a little bit of conversation.

I previously wrote and hit the send button a little too quickly:
> Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote:
>> Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
>>> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware 
>>> business.
>>
>> Yeah, because Sega suddenly found a few billions extra under the sofa
>> cushions and decided to single-handedly take on a market that is
>> completely covered top-to-bottom. That is far more likely than the
>> mundane fact that you have to periodically renew registration of
>> trademarks.
> 
> A shame you didn't read my post properly.  If you had you would have 
> seen this part:
> 
> "Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
> made my heart skip a little bit."
> 
> My apologies for feeling a little nostalgic about a great console and 
> trying to spark a little bit of conversation.

Of course, if your sarcasm was just aimed at the original news report 
and not at my for seemingly believing it, then fair enough.  I agree 
completely, it's a ludicrous assumption.

On 2007-12-09, Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware business.
>
> The application, which was filed in August, covers home consoles, 
> controllers, and "video game interactive controller, namely, hand held 
> pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer cursor 
> control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; video game 
> software, computer game programs."
>
> This may be nothing more than an effort by Sega to protect the Dreamcast 
> brand, though apparently the original trademark filing for the name is 
> still active. It's interesting to note the differences between the two 
> filings, however, in particular the "floor pads or mats."
>
> http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/rumor-sega-pond.html
>
> Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
> made my heart skip a little bit.
>
> There is a nice little fantasy piece on the Dreamcast 2 here too:
>
> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9829092-1.html
>
> It is my hope that the Dreamcast will eventually make a return of sorts 
> via a DLC service on the PS3 or 360 in the near future.

"Sure, it's outdated and the graphics on it are enough to make you vomit
when compared to today's offerings, but it has a nostalgic appeal that
begs us to be played."

Playing Soul Calibur on the DC last night I thought it looked absolutely
fine.

-- 
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On 2007-12-09 11:20:12 +0000, Toby Newman  said:

> On 2007-12-09, Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
>> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
>> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware 
>> business.
>> 
>> The application, which was filed in August, covers home consoles, 
>> controllers, and "video game interactive controller, namely, hand held 
>> pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer 
>> cursor control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; 
>> video game software, computer game programs."
>> 
>> This may be nothing more than an effort by Sega to protect the 
>> Dreamcast brand, though apparently the original trademark filing for 
>> the name is still active. It's interesting to note the differences 
>> between the two filings, however, in particular the "floor pads or 
>> mats."
>> 
>> http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/rumor-sega-pond.html
>> 
>> Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
>> made my heart skip a little bit.
>> 
>> There is a nice little fantasy piece on the Dreamcast 2 here too:
>> 
>> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9829092-1.html
>> 
>> It is my hope that the Dreamcast will eventually make a return of sorts 
>> via a DLC service on the PS3 or 360 in the near future.
> 
> "Sure, it's outdated and the graphics on it are enough to make you vomit
> when compared to today's offerings, but it has a nostalgic appeal that
> begs us to be played."
> 
> Playing Soul Calibur on the DC last night I thought it looked absolutely
> fine.

Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far 
from vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against 
PS2, Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare 
to Gears and Heavenly Sword.

-- 
Zo

http://zomoniac.com/forsale.html

On 2007-12-09, Zomoniac  wrote:
> On 2007-12-09 11:20:12 +0000, Toby Newman  said:
>
>> On 2007-12-09, Steve Jackson <qwerty@qwerty.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Sega has applied to trademark the name "Dreamcast," prompting 
>>> speculation that the company is pondering a return to the hardware 
>>> business.
>>> 
>>> The application, which was filed in August, covers home consoles, 
>>> controllers, and "video game interactive controller, namely, hand held 
>>> pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer 
>>> cursor control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; 
>>> video game software, computer game programs."
>>> 
>>> This may be nothing more than an effort by Sega to protect the 
>>> Dreamcast brand, though apparently the original trademark filing for 
>>> the name is still active. It's interesting to note the differences 
>>> between the two filings, however, in particular the "floor pads or 
>>> mats."
>>> 
>>> http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/rumor-sega-pond.html
>>> 
>>> Ok, it's wishful thinking and will never happen, but reading it still 
>>> made my heart skip a little bit.
>>> 
>>> There is a nice little fantasy piece on the Dreamcast 2 here too:
>>> 
>>> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9829092-1.html
>>> 
>>> It is my hope that the Dreamcast will eventually make a return of sorts 
>>> via a DLC service on the PS3 or 360 in the near future.
>> 
>> "Sure, it's outdated and the graphics on it are enough to make you vomit
>> when compared to today's offerings, but it has a nostalgic appeal that
>> begs us to be played."
>> 
>> Playing Soul Calibur on the DC last night I thought it looked absolutely
>> fine.
>
> Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far 
> from vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against 
> PS2, Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare 
> to Gears and Heavenly Sword.

No, I don't have an Xbox 360 or a PS3 but I do have eyes, and can see out
my window. The graphics out there are pretty good out there.

-- 
-Toby
Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.

Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 9 Dec
2007 16:03:26 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.dreamcast, yawatina tan reek esk Zomoniac
 fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far 
>from vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against 
>PS2, Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare 
>to Gears and Heavenly Sword.

I'd much rather play Shenmue or Soul Calibur over those two games though,
regardless of what looks best.

deKay
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On 2007-12-09 20:36:04 +0000, deKay 
<andyk@deleteme.lofi-gaming.nospam.org.uk.invalid> said:

> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Sun, 9 Dec
> 2007 16:03:26 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
> uk.games.video.dreamcast, yawatina tan reek esk Zomoniac
>  fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
> 
>> Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far 
>> from vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against 
>> PS2, Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare 
>> to Gears and Heavenly Sword.
> 
> I'd much rather play Shenmue or Soul Calibur over those two games though,
> regardless of what looks best.

As would I, and Shenmue will forever be the greatest game ever made, 
and SC is better than either of its sequels IMO, but that wasn't the 
issue being discussed.

-- 
Zo

http://zomoniac.com/forsale.html

In a dim and distant universe ,
   Zomoniac  enlightened us thusly:
> Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far from
> vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against PS2,
> Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare to
> Gears and Heavenly Sword.

True, but graphics aren't everything.

Soul Calibur had far better gameplay IMHO, although I'll admit I've only
played the demo of Heavenly Sword.

I've also yet to find a game to match ShadowMan for sheer size of the map
and single-player expansiveness.

MInd you, I'm addicted to "Uncharted" on the PS3 at the moment, which is
seriously superb! :-)

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Paul Vigay wrote:
> In a dim and distant universe ,
>    Zomoniac  enlightened us thusly:
>> Yes, but you don't have any of 'today's offerings'! Whilst it's far from
>> vomit-inducing, as implied, Dreamcast could hold its own against PS2,
>> Cube and Xbox, even Shenmue and Soul Calibur don't exactly compare to
>> Gears and Heavenly Sword.
> 
> True, but graphics aren't everything.
> 
> Soul Calibur had far better gameplay IMHO, although I'll admit I've only
> played the demo of Heavenly Sword.
> 
> I've also yet to find a game to match ShadowMan for sheer size of the map
> and single-player expansiveness.
> 
> MInd you, I'm addicted to "Uncharted" on the PS3 at the moment, which is
> seriously superb! :-)

Wasn't Shadowman an N64 port? I've never played it, but I find it hard 
to believe a DC/N64 game is bigger than Oblivion, Mass Effect or San 
Andreas.

-- 

Zo

In a dim and distant universe ,
   Zomoniac  enlightened us thusly:
[Snippety snip]

> Wasn't Shadowman an N64 port?

Not sure. I've seen versions on several different platforms.

> I've never played it, but I find it hard to believe a DC/N64 game is
> bigger than Oblivion, Mass Effect or San Andreas.

Oblivion is huge as it's pretty much free-ranging (I've got the PS3
version) but from what I've played of both games, ShadowMan is bigger in
terms of levels, but is more 'enclosed' (ie. it's more of a Tomb Raider
style, linear movement through different 'areas'). The two are quite
different games.

However, I think the onus these days is on multi-player play because many
games (especially first person shooters) seem to suffer from very small
single-player maps.

I remember playing Unreal and the first Half Life on the PC and they were
both pretty large, taking some time to complete. I then got Star Trek Elite
Force which was disappointing in it's shortness (I completed it in one
evening) although I preferred the online play.

I've just completed Call of Duty 4 in a couple of evenings and that also
has a very small single-player map, although again is good in multi-play.

Uncharted is definitely recommended though. It brings back memories of the
fun I had when the original Tomb Raider came out all those years ago and we
were all addicted to it. However, with Uncharted it also shows off the
power of the PS3 (with real-time drying of clothes which actually become
wet if you jump in the rivers, or undergrowth which actually moves when you
push your way through it, all with dappled lighting coming through the
canapy - ahhh lovely! :-))

Paul

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