My main job for today was to go to the job centre.

No.  I'll start again.  My main job for today was to apply (rather late) 
for a "Certificate of Age Exception", which is needed so that the 
College will stop deducting NI contributions from my salary now that I 
am over sixty and, therefore, supposedly fully paid up.  I did phone the 
NI, but that is not good enough.  I have to write to them!  With 
evidence that the birth date they have for me is correct.  And that is 
not just a photocopy of my driving licence.  Oh no!  It has to be a 
certified photocopy of my driving licence - which gets us back to my 
visit to the job centre.  They are the people who do the certifying.  <sigh>

Why?  I have been contributing to NI since I was 18.  Not continuously, 
I admit, there are gaps in my record when I was at Uni and when I had 
children.  But they have my record.  They sent me all the bumf about 
retiring and what my pension would be etc.  Why do I have to prove my 
age now?  Would I have had to prove my age if I had decided to leave 
work and claim the pension they offered me?  Eek!  Sometimes I despair 
of Government departments.

OK.  Rant over.  Sorry :-(

On the good side, I have finished knitting a lace stole in yellow and 
orange stripes (not my colours at all, but I just fancied working it in 
yellow and orange, and it does clash====== contrast nicely against my 
usual blue/green/purple range).

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RatBag burbled:

>My main job for today was to go to the job centre.
>
>No.  I'll start again.  My main job for today was to apply (rather late) 
>for a "Certificate of Age Exception", which is needed so that the 
>College will stop deducting NI contributions from my salary now that I 
>am over sixty and, therefore, supposedly fully paid up.  

I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
of NI contributions so I could stop.

I am *nowhere* near 60 but started work early.
<Slaps Hedgehog in advance.)

I had the choice of continuing to pay. Someone said I should to get
NHS treatment. Dunno if that's right.

The next year I got a letter saying I'd paid too much and they
returned it to me.

The following year I got a letter saying I hadn't paid enough and
should make it up.
I did and the following year it was returned to me again.

I dunno what's going on now.

Will they keep taking the NI payments and then paying them back to me?
Can't they just stop taking them?

And I don't wanna pay too much and not get it back either.
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Sheel wrote:

> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
> of NI contributions so I could stop.
> 

I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is 
forty years.  I have gaps in my record, but can claim on my ex-husband's 
record which is forty years.  I'm glad he is good for something!

> I am *nowhere* near 60 but started work early.
> <Slaps Hedgehog in advance.)
> 

Sounds painful :-(

> I had the choice of continuing to pay. Someone said I should to get
> NHS treatment. Dunno if that's right.
> 
> The next year I got a letter saying I'd paid too much and they
> returned it to me.
> 
 > etc

I think they've got you mixed up with another Sheel.  Either that or 
they are picking on you, hoping to drive you to despair and an early 
death to save on pension costs.

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RatBag burbled:

>Sheel wrote:
>
>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>> 
>
>I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is 
>forty years.  

Nope. I deffo got the letter.
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Sheel burbled:

>RatBag burbled:
>
>>Sheel wrote:
>>
>>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>>> 
>>
>>I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is 
>>forty years.  
>
>Nope. I deffo got the letter.

I brought it into school and the HT hadn't heard of it. She is older
than me, but can't have done 30 years.

She checked with her new hubby, but can't remember what he thought.
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Sheel slappied:

> <Slaps Hedgehog in advance.>

Rood Sheel!  Poor Heglog!

<rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>

Wot?  No, there isn't any vino...

~..~
(  '  )  <sigh>
  '  '

Scatterbunny wrote:

> <rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>
> 
> Wot?  No, there isn't any vino...
> 
> ~..~
> (  '  )  <sigh>
>   '  '

We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a 
cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.

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Sheel wrote:
> Sheel burbled:
> 
>> RatBag burbled:
>>
>>> Sheel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>>>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>>>>
>>> I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is 
>>> forty years.  
>> Nope. I deffo got the letter.
> 

Yes, I see now.  According to

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/benefits/national_insurance_contributions_and_benefits.htm

you can qualify for a basic state pension on 30 years contributions if 
you reach pension age after April 2010.  I had ignored that bit when I 
was checking the rules for me, obviously.

However, I don't know why they were taking contributions and then 
returning them.  Seems like right hand/left hand syndrome.

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RatBag rotied:

> We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a
> cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.

No milk?  Bleuuugh!   You'll have to knit your own teaspoon.  I just
went to make a cup in the guest kitchen and one of the other guests
has removed the only teaspoon.  It's quite intrestin seein how various
guests fit into / don't fit into the monstery environment.  I've been
here for three weeks and lots of guests have come and gone, but nobody
has walked off with the teaspoon before.  I'm gettin cross about it,
as I've got little else to get bothered about, so that makes it a
spiritual challenge as well...

~..~
(  '  )
  '  '

RatBag wrote:
> Scatterbunny wrote:
> 
>> <rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>
> 
> We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a 
> cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.
> 
How monstery is it?

What sort of monsters is it made from?
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Scatterbunny wrote:
> RatBag rotied:
> 
>> We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a
>> cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.
> 
> No milk?  Bleuuugh!   You'll have to knit your own teaspoon.  I just
> went to make a cup in the guest kitchen and one of the other guests
> has removed the only teaspoon.  It's quite intrestin seein how various
> guests fit into / don't fit into the monstery environment.  I've been
> here for three weeks and lots of guests have come and gone, but nobody
> has walked off with the teaspoon before.  I'm gettin cross about it,
> as I've got little else to get bothered about, so that makes it a
> spiritual challenge as well...

You'll have to improvise. The silly dangly ears must have some uses.
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blankie wrote:
> RatBag wrote:
>> Scatterbunny wrote:
>>
>>> <rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>
>>
>> We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a 
>> cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.
>>
> How monstery is it?
> 
> What sort of monsters is it made from?

Shhhhh!  It's code.  We have to preserve the rabit's anominity.

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Scatterbunny wrote:

> No milk?  Bleuuugh!   You'll have to knit your own teaspoon.  

Thanks.  OK, I don't need a teaspoon.  I'll just blow on the tea to cool 
it a bit.

> I just
> went to make a cup in the guest kitchen and one of the other guests
> has removed the only teaspoon.  It's quite intrestin seein how various
> guests fit into / don't fit into the monstery environment.  I've been
> here for three weeks and lots of guests have come and gone, but nobody
> has walked off with the teaspoon before.  I'm gettin cross about it,
> as I've got little else to get bothered about, so that makes it a
> spiritual challenge as well...

I can't quite see how a missing teaspoon can be a spiritual challenge, 
unless the challenge is not to get cross.  I would just get cross...

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Scatterbunny burbled:

>Sheel slappied:
>
>> <Slaps Hedgehog in advance.>
>
>Rood Sheel!  Poor Heglog!
>
><rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>
>
>Wot?  No, there isn't any vino...

There isn't any Hedgehog either.
She's nearer to you than you think.

<cackle>
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RatBag burbled:


>Yes, I see now.  According to
>
>http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/benefits/national_insurance_contributions_and_benefits.htm
>
>you can qualify for a basic state pension on 30 years contributions if 
>you reach pension age after April 2010.  

If I keep paying do I get a bigger pension?

>I had ignored that bit when I 
>was checking the rules for me, obviously.
>
>However, I don't know why they were taking contributions and then 
>returning them.  Seems like right hand/left hand syndrome.
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Sheel writtied:

> There isn't any Hedgehog either.
> She's nearer to you than you think.
>
> <cackle>

Wot?  <frown>  You don't mean...?  <rabit bashes on nextdoor monstery
room>  Heglog!  Where's the bloody teaspoon?!

~..~
(  '  )
  '  '

Scatterbunny burbled:

>Sheel writtied:
>
>> There isn't any Hedgehog either.
>> She's nearer to you than you think.
>>
>> <cackle>
>
>Wot?  <frown>  You don't mean...?  <rabit bashes on nextdoor monstery
>room>  Heglog!  Where's the bloody teaspoon?!

How come there's only 1 teaspoon in your place?
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Sheel writied:

> >Wot?  <frown>  You don't mean...?  <rabit bashes on nextdoor monstery
> >room>  Heglog!  Where's the bloody teaspoon?!
>
> How come there's only 1 teaspoon in your place?

Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh!  That's the hole point!  There isn't 1 now!  <rabit
stirs tea with toothbrush>  No wonder the bishop's off to Rome.  He
knows where the teaspoons are....

~..~
(  '  )
 '   '

Scatterbunny burbled:

>Sheel writied:
>
>> >Wot?  <frown>  You don't mean...?  <rabit bashes on nextdoor monstery
>> >room>  Heglog!  Where's the bloody teaspoon?!
>>
>> How come there's only 1 teaspoon in your place?
>
>Aaaaaaarrrrrrgh!  That's the hole point!  There isn't 1 now!  <rabit
>stirs tea with toothbrush>  No wonder the bishop's off to Rome.  He
>knows where the teaspoons are....

Is he gonna say that Catholic priests who want to get married and have
women priests can join the CofE?

An eye for an eye etc.
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"Sheel"  wrote in message 
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> RatBag burbled:
>
>>Sheel wrote:
>>
>>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>>>
>>
>>I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is
>>forty years.
>
> Nope. I deffo got the letter.

That would mean some people in their 40s could stop paying. Seems unlikely. 
Even allowing for uni break, I must be paid up if you are right. Yippee!

Brian

Brian Reay burbled:

>"Sheel"  wrote in message 
>news:ob9he59b9oh755jeorj07k7aptfi71v1o4@4ax.com...
>> RatBag burbled:
>>
>>>Sheel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>>>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is
>>>forty years.
>>
>> Nope. I deffo got the letter.
>
>That would mean some people in their 40s could stop paying. Seems unlikely. 
>Even allowing for uni break, I must be paid up if you are right. Yippee!

It is right, but in the letter you are given the choice of carrying on
paying.
It's not clear what you would gain from that.
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Sheel writtied:

> >No wonder the bishop's off to Rome.  He
> >knows where the teaspoons are....
>
> Is he gonna say that Catholic priests who want to get married and have
> women priests can join the CofE?

That's got nothin to do with teaspoons!  Rabits of small brain can
only deal with one issue at a time.

But since you insist on dragging other things into it, if any of you
are *really* intrested in the issue of wimmin bishops that is dividin
the Onglical church just now, I'm quite happy to share a PDF file I've
got of a scholarly book published last year about the way the proper
record of wimmin's ordiniation - including medieval wimmin deacons,
presbyters and bishops - has been completely hidden because church
history has been written by mens. Email me and I'll send it as an
attachment.  The book shows that - just as the church stamped out
married clergy - it also removed the practice of ordainering wimmin.
The author provides chapter and verse from medieval Latin documents
and the bibliography alone is a treat.

All this is very intrestin, but of course, bein just a rabit of small
brain I couldn't possibly comment on these lofty matters.  Personally,
I'm more concerned about the missin teaspoon.


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In a mad moment - RatBag  mumbled :

> Sheel wrote:
>> Sheel burbled:
>> 
>>> RatBag burbled:
>>>
>>>> Sheel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I got a letter about 3 years ago saying you only have to pay 30 years
>>>>> of NI contributions so I could stop.
>>>>>
>>>> I thought the rule about 30 years had only just come in.  I'm sure it is
>>>> forty years.
>>> Nope. I deffo got the letter.
>> 

> Yes, I see now.  According to

> http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/life/benefits/national_insurance_c
> ontributions_and_benefits.htm

> you can qualify for a basic state pension on 30 years contributions if
> you reach pension age after April 2010.  I had ignored that bit when I
> was checking the rules for me, obviously.

> However, I don't know why they were taking contributions and then
> returning them.  Seems like right hand/left hand syndrome.

You need to get an X in your tax code !


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In a mad moment - Scatterbunny  mumbled :

> RatBag rotied:

>> We think Heglog may be travelling today/tomorrow.  Please may I have a
>> cup of monstery tea (no milk obviously)?  Thanks.

> No milk?  Bleuuugh!   You'll have to knit your own teaspoon.  I just
> went to make a cup in the guest kitchen and one of the other guests
> has removed the only teaspoon.  It's quite intrestin seein how various
> guests fit into / don't fit into the monstery environment.  I've been
> here for three weeks and lots of guests have come and gone, but nobody
> has walked off with the teaspoon before.  I'm gettin cross about it,
> as I've got little else to get bothered about, so that makes it a
> spiritual challenge as well...

Check the cat!

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Scatterbunny warbled...
> Sheel slappied:
> 
> > <Slaps Hedgehog in advance.>
> 
> Rood Sheel!  Poor Heglog!

Luvverley Hunnybin.

> <rabit pours Heglog a nice hot cup of monstery tea>

<Heglog opens mouth to ask question>

> Wot?  No, there isn't any vino...

<Heglog closes mouth>

> ~..~
> (  '  )  <sigh>
>   '  '
> 
I'm the one who should be sighing. First I get slapped then I find you 
has drunk all the wine.



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Scatterbunny warbled...

> Wot?  <frown>  You don't mean...?  <rabit bashes on nextdoor monstery
> room>  Heglog!  Where's the bloody teaspoon?!
> 
> ~..~
> (  '  )
>   '  '
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Bryn Evans burbled:


>You need to get an X in your tax code !

Where from?
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In a mad moment - Sheel  mumbled :

> Bryn Evans burbled:


>>You need to get an X in your tax code !

> Where from?
any suitable spot !!

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Sheel wrote:
> Bryn Evans burbled:
> 
> 
>> You need to get an X in your tax code !
> 
> Where from?

You can buy them by the boxload.

Go to Argos and ask for an XBox.
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