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date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:06:51 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.comp.homebuilt        back       
Physically getting into laptops...   
Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
at the motherboard to replace a damaged item...  I have all the edge
screws removed which allows me to separate the keyboard from the main
chassis by about 30mm all round but there are two pillars roughly
above the 'M' and 'V' key which which appear to be holding the final
part in place...  For the life of me I can't find the access to these
two screws.  I have removed some of the keys in the region but no go!
Can the keyboard be 'lifted away' in it's entirety?  Can anyone help
me get into this machine?  Very many thanks in anticipation...
Richard.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:06:51 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ardamerr

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
In article <7b9f0f02-3ff8-464c-a81f-96d4341dd288
@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Ardamerr says...
> 
> Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
> at the motherboard to replace a damaged item...  I have all the edge
> screws removed which allows me to separate the keyboard from the main
> chassis by about 30mm all round but there are two pillars roughly
> above the 'M' and 'V' key which which appear to be holding the final
> part in place...  For the life of me I can't find the access to these
> two screws.  I have removed some of the keys in the region but no go!
> Can the keyboard be 'lifted away' in it's entirety?  Can anyone help
> me get into this machine?  Very many thanks in anticipation...
> Richard.

Any screws for the keyboard are accessed from the underside of the 
laptop.

You need to remove the keyboard seperately first. It'll be the keys 
mounted on a metal plate the size of the area covered by the keys. There 
will be a ribbon cable that'll need disconnecting. You'll probably find 
a couple of screws underneath it once you've taken it out. Remove them 
then remove the palmrest plastics. You cannot remove the whole lot of 
the top as one with the keyboard in place. I'd be surprised if you can 
do it without removing the screen.

-- 
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:14:10 -0000   author:   Conor

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
On 3 Nov, 11:14, Conor  wrote:
> In article <7b9f0f02-3ff8-464c-a81f-96d4341dd288
> @k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Ardamerr says...
>
>
>
> > Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
> > at the motherboard to replace a damaged item...  I have all the edge
> > screws removed which allows me to separate the keyboard from the main
> > chassis by about 30mm all round but there are two pillars roughly
> > above the 'M' and 'V' key which which appear to be holding the final
> > part in place...  For the life of me I can't find the access to these
> > two screws.  I have removed some of the keys in the region but no go!
> > Can the keyboard be 'lifted away' in it's entirety?  Can anyone help
> > me get into this machine?  Very many thanks in anticipation...
> > Richard.
>
> Any screws for the keyboard are accessed from the underside of the
> laptop.
>
> You need to remove the keyboard seperately first. It'll be the keys
> mounted on a metal plate the size of the area covered by the keys. There
> will be a ribbon cable that'll need disconnecting. You'll probably find
> a couple of screws underneath it once you've taken it out. Remove them
> then remove the palmrest plastics. You cannot remove the whole lot of
> the top as one with the keyboard in place. I'd be surprised if you can
> do it without removing the screen.
>
> --
> Conorwww.notebooks-r-us.co.uk
>
> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

Dear Conor...  Thanks for that...  BUT, I just can't get access to the
metal plate, as I said I can only open the keyboard / base about 30mm
and that is putting a lot of stress on these two pillars...  Perhaps
I'm misunderstanding what you are advising me to do?
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:49:37 -0800 (PST)   author:   Ardamerr

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
Ardamerr wrote:
> Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
> at the motherboard to replace a damaged item... 

The service manual will help.

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00246219.pdf

-- 
Adrian C
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:29:37 +0000   author:   Adrian C lid

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
Adrian C wrote:
> Ardamerr wrote:
>> Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
>> at the motherboard to replace a damaged item... 
> 
> The service manual will help.
> 
> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00246219.pdf

That one rings a bell. I think I used it before for a listed laptop, and 
the keyboard-removal process turned out to be totally wrong :-)

Sometimes keyboard screws are hidden under the battery or inside the 
memory/CPU covers.


-- 
John Jordan
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:48:54 +0000   author:   John Jordan

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
John Jordan wrote:
> Adrian C wrote:
>> Ardamerr wrote:
>>> Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
>>> at the motherboard to replace a damaged item... 
>>
>> The service manual will help.
>>
>> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00246219.pdf
> 
> That one rings a bell. I think I used it before for a listed laptop, and 
> the keyboard-removal process turned out to be totally wrong :-)
> 
> Sometimes keyboard screws are hidden under the battery or inside the 
> memory/CPU covers.
> 
> 

And sometimes under labels, sometimes under rubber feet....
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:43:03 -0800   author:   nobody

Re: Physically getting into laptops...   
In message , "nobody >" 
 writes
>John Jordan wrote:
>> Adrian C wrote:
>>> Ardamerr wrote:
>>>> Hello all...  I have an HP Pavilion ZE4111s laptop and I need to get
>>>> at the motherboard to replace a damaged item...
>>>
>>> The service manual will help.
>>>
>>> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00246219.pdf
>>  That one rings a bell. I think I used it before for a listed laptop, 
>>and  the keyboard-removal process turned out to be totally wrong :-)
>>  Sometimes keyboard screws are hidden under the battery or inside the 
>>memory/CPU covers.
>>
>
>And sometimes under labels, sometimes under rubber feet....

On my Acer Travelmate you don't even remove most of the top cover to 
remove the keyboard..

There is a piece of plastic that runs along the top of the keyboard. 
That is removed (2 screw underneath the plastic hinge covers.

Then the keyboard just sort of pops out from underneath the main body of 
the plaptop.
-- 
Chris French
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:26:23 +0000   author:   Chris French

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