Just bought a new power supply from Maplin as suggested - i KNOW could get a 
cheaper one elsewhere online, but wanted to get the machine working ASAP.

Machine is now back to life - power supply, CPU and graphics card fans all 
running ok.  However, when connecting to a monitor it reoprts "No Video 
Input".

My suspicion is that the graphics card has gone too. Am I on the right 
track?  Is there an easy way to verify this considering that I do not have a 
spare card to slot in?

Any help will be much appreciated.

TIA.



PS: in case it makes a difference - the machine was left running when we 
left earlier yesterday morning, and was completely dead when we arrived in 
the afternoon.

"JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
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> Just bought a new power supply from Maplin as suggested - i KNOW could get 
> a cheaper one elsewhere online, but wanted to get the machine working 
> ASAP.
>
> Machine is now back to life - power supply, CPU and graphics card fans all 
> running ok.  However, when connecting to a monitor it reoprts "No Video 
> Input".
>
> My suspicion is that the graphics card has gone too. Am I on the right 
> track?  Is there an easy way to verify this considering that I do not have 
> a spare card to slot in?
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.
>
> TIA.
>
>
>
> PS: in case it makes a difference - the machine was left running when we 
> left earlier yesterday morning, and was completely dead when we arrived in 
> the afternoon.

Does your graphics card have an additional power input and you forgot
to connect it?  Just checking, as that's an easy thing to do..  If not, try
reseating the gfx card.

HTH,
-- 
Rob

"Rob"  wrote in message 
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>
> "JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
> news:cY-dnf5Cl6kW2zvXnZ2dnUVZ8iidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>> Just bought a new power supply from Maplin as suggested - i KNOW could 
>> get a cheaper one elsewhere online, but wanted to get the machine working 
>> ASAP.
>>
>> Machine is now back to life - power supply, CPU and graphics card fans 
>> all running ok.  However, when connecting to a monitor it reoprts "No 
>> Video Input".
>>
>> My suspicion is that the graphics card has gone too. Am I on the right 
>> track?  Is there an easy way to verify this considering that I do not 
>> have a spare card to slot in?
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
>> PS: in case it makes a difference - the machine was left running when we 
>> left earlier yesterday morning, and was completely dead when we arrived 
>> in the afternoon.
>
> Does your graphics card have an additional power input and you forgot
> to connect it?  Just checking, as that's an easy thing to do..  If not, 
> try
> reseating the gfx card.


Just noticed the additional input...  Red face all around...

Everything is now working!

Many thanks again.

"JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Rob"  wrote in message 
> news:h85j65$eh7$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...
>>
>> "JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
>> news:cY-dnf5Cl6kW2zvXnZ2dnUVZ8iidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>> Just bought a new power supply from Maplin as suggested - i KNOW could 
>>> get a cheaper one elsewhere online, but wanted to get the machine 
>>> working ASAP.
>>>
>>> Machine is now back to life - power supply, CPU and graphics card fans 
>>> all running ok.  However, when connecting to a monitor it reoprts "No 
>>> Video Input".
>>>
>>> My suspicion is that the graphics card has gone too. Am I on the right 
>>> track?  Is there an easy way to verify this considering that I do not 
>>> have a spare card to slot in?
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: in case it makes a difference - the machine was left running when we 
>>> left earlier yesterday morning, and was completely dead when we arrived 
>>> in the afternoon.
>>
>> Does your graphics card have an additional power input and you forgot
>> to connect it?  Just checking, as that's an easy thing to do..  If not, 
>> try
>> reseating the gfx card.
>
>
> Just noticed the additional input...  Red face all around...
>
> Everything is now working!
>
> Many thanks again.

You're welcome.  It something I suspect most in this newsgroup have done
at least once - I know I have!
-- 
Rob

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:26:53 +0100, Rob wrote:

[...]
 
> You're welcome.  It something I suspect most in this newsgroup have done
> at least once - I know I have!

That's nothing. Yesterday a machine I was upgrading for someone would 
POST, start to load the OS, then shut down. It took several tries before 
I realised I had accidentally pulled off the CPU fan connector from the 
MB!

Luckily I had built the machine originally, and had set the over-temp 
shutdown in the BIOS to the lowest possible value, so the CPU survived.

Chris

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"Chris Whelan"  wrote in message 
news:hFwpm.5979$AJ1.2299@newsfe03.ams2...
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:26:53 +0100, Rob wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> You're welcome.  It something I suspect most in this newsgroup have done
>> at least once - I know I have!
>
> That's nothing. Yesterday a machine I was upgrading for someone would
> POST, start to load the OS, then shut down. It took several tries before
> I realised I had accidentally pulled off the CPU fan connector from the
> MB!
>
> Luckily I had built the machine originally, and had set the over-temp
> shutdown in the BIOS to the lowest possible value, so the CPU survived.
>
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Remove prejudice to reply.

set the over-temp
shutdown in the BIOS to the lowest possible value,

good idea duh!

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:12:02 +0100, Jim E wrote:

[...]

> set the over-temp
> shutdown in the BIOS to the lowest possible value,
> 
> good idea duh!

Err... yeah.

All MB's I've seen with this feature either have it disabled, or set to 
the *highest* value as a default. I've never seen a professionally built 
machine that has had that changed...

Chris

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Chris Whelan wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:12:02 +0100, Jim E wrote:
> 
>> set the over-temp
>> shutdown in the BIOS to the lowest possible value,
>>
>> good idea duh!
> 
> Err... yeah.
> 
> All MB's I've seen with this feature either have it disabled, or set to 
> the *highest* value as a default. I've never seen a professionally built 
> machine that has had that changed...

Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much 
better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not necessary.


-- 
John Jordan

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:45:32 +0100, John Jordan wrote:

[...]

> Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much
> better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not necessary.

How modern?

Chris

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On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:39:48 GMT
Chris Whelan  wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:45:32 +0100, John Jordan wrote:
> 
> > Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much
> > better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not
> > necessary.
> 
> How modern?
> 
P4 and AthlonXP, I think.

"JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Rob"  wrote in message 
> news:h85j65$eh7$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...
>>
>> "JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
>> news:cY-dnf5Cl6kW2zvXnZ2dnUVZ8iidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>> Just bought a new power supply from Maplin as suggested - i KNOW could 
>>> get a cheaper one elsewhere online, but wanted to get the machine 
>>> working ASAP.
>>>
>>> Machine is now back to life - power supply, CPU and graphics card fans 
>>> all running ok.  However, when connecting to a monitor it reoprts "No 
>>> Video Input".
>>>
>>> My suspicion is that the graphics card has gone too. Am I on the right 
>>> track?  Is there an easy way to verify this considering that I do not 
>>> have a spare card to slot in?
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS: in case it makes a difference - the machine was left running when we 
>>> left earlier yesterday morning, and was completely dead when we arrived 
>>> in the afternoon.
>>
>> Does your graphics card have an additional power input and you forgot
>> to connect it?  Just checking, as that's an easy thing to do..  If not, 
>> try
>> reseating the gfx card.
>
>
> Just noticed the additional input...  Red face all around...
>
> Everything is now working!
>
> Many thanks again.
>

I share the same red face as I did the same myself once.

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:35:16 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:39:48 GMT
> Chris Whelan  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:45:32 +0100, John Jordan wrote:
>> 
>> > Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much
>> > better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not
>> > necessary.
>> 
>> How modern?
>> 
> P4 and AthlonXP, I think.

Most of the stuff I've built for others has been from my spares, from 
Ebay, or from parts rescued from otherwise dead machines. I've provided 
them mostly FOC to folk who either had no means to pay for a PC, or no 
will to do so, in order to help them get an idea of the benefits.

These have mostly been Athlon XP 1800 to XP 3000 based. AFAIAW, they do 
not have thermal shutdown on-chip.

P4's throttle I believe, but I haven't used so many of them.

Chris

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In message <20090909193516.18839a5f@bluemoon>, Rob Morley 
 writes
>> > Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much
>> > better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not
>> > necessary.
>>
>> How modern?
>>
>P4 and AthlonXP, I think.
>
Athlon XP and Sempron thermal shutdown is a one time function, indicated 
by a little puff of smoke.
-- 
Clint Sharp

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:39:49 +0100, Clint Sharp wrote:

> In message <20090909193516.18839a5f@bluemoon>, Rob Morley
>  writes
>>> > Well, modern CPUs have built in thermal shutdown support with much
>>> > better reaction speed, so additional BIOS protection is not
>>> > necessary.
>>>
>>> How modern?
>>>
>>P4 and AthlonXP, I think.
>>
> Athlon XP and Sempron thermal shutdown is a one time function, indicated
> by a little puff of smoke.

:-)

Chris

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