You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
(what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?

Did anyone find out who he really was?

Alex Flaherty  writes:

>You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
>(what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
>after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>
>Did anyone find out who he really was?


I searched BT's directory:

People
* M Whitby in Brixton:
        ** nobody
* M Whitby in London:
        ** M (Maurice) Whitby - NW3 (just by Hampstead Heath)
        ** M M Whitby-Grub    - SW16 (vaguely near Brixton)

Businesses
Several, but the relevant looking one is:
* M Whitby: 29 Perryn Road   - W3 (Ealing, not near Brixton)

What about Yell?

Business name: Whitby
In: London
        ** An optician's, a pub, a firm of consulting engineers, and a 
firm of surveyors.  None in the right part of London.

OK, so we can't find a person by that name who lives in the right part 
of London.  What about Google?  Can it tell us about water installation 
engineers?

"Mark Whitby"
Gives a large number of hits, including some on a Mark Whitby who 
established a firm of consulting engineers, Whitby Bird & Partners. This 
firm is in the civil engineering sector, but the firm's offices are in 
Marylebone W1, across the river from Brixton.  I can't see a civil 
engineer who has founded his own company being "from Brixton", really.

Here's the page:   http://www.setnet.org.uk/cgi-bin/wms.pl/199

Here's something odd:

"Water installation engineer"
Gives no hits except the news reports about Mark Whitby...  None. Nobody 
else uses this term.  Plumbers don't tart up their businesses by using 
this term, civil engineers don't use it, nobody and nothing uses it - it 
is only found in these reports.

So, no clue what a water installation engineer is.  Is it just a 
fancy-pants word for a plumber?  Apparently not, because there are no 
mentions of it, except the reports about this guy, to be found anywhere 
on the Internet.

-- 
SteveR
(throw away the dustbin, send to stever@... instead)

Humans are way too stupid to be dumb animals.
http://www.accidentalcreditor.org.uk/

SteveR wrote:

> Alex Flaherty  writes:
> 
>> You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
>> (what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
>> after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>>
>> Did anyone find out who he really was?
> 
> 
> I searched BT's directory:
> 
> People
> * M Whitby in Brixton:
>        ** nobody
> * M Whitby in London:
>        ** M (Maurice) Whitby - NW3 (just by Hampstead Heath)
>        ** M M Whitby-Grub    - SW16 (vaguely near Brixton)
> 
> Businesses
> Several, but the relevant looking one is:
> * M Whitby: 29 Perryn Road   - W3 (Ealing, not near Brixton)
> 
> What about Yell?
> 
> Business name: Whitby
> In: London
>        ** An optician's, a pub, a firm of consulting engineers, and a 
> firm of surveyors.  None in the right part of London.
> 
> OK, so we can't find a person by that name who lives in the right part 
> of London.  What about Google?  Can it tell us about water installation 
> engineers?
> 
> "Mark Whitby"
> Gives a large number of hits, including some on a Mark Whitby who 
> established a firm of consulting engineers, Whitby Bird & Partners. This 
> firm is in the civil engineering sector, but the firm's offices are in 
> Marylebone W1, across the river from Brixton.  I can't see a civil 
> engineer who has founded his own company being "from Brixton", really.
> 
> Here's the page:   http://www.setnet.org.uk/cgi-bin/wms.pl/199
> 
> Here's something odd:
> 
> "Water installation engineer"
> Gives no hits except the news reports about Mark Whitby...  None. Nobody 
> else uses this term.  Plumbers don't tart up their businesses by using 
> this term, civil engineers don't use it, nobody and nothing uses it - it 
> is only found in these reports.
> 
> So, no clue what a water installation engineer is.  Is it just a 
> fancy-pants word for a plumber?  Apparently not, because there are no 
> mentions of it, except the reports about this guy, to be found anywhere 
> on the Internet.


Is a 'water installation engineer' someone who 'takes the piss'? Sounds 
like the sort of name and job title you would think up on the spur of 
the moment. IOW looks like he is one of the surveillance team or has 
been told what to say. He was reading a newspaper when he saw all this!

The following is quite interesting:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/6aef8bb0-fb15-11d9-a0f6-00000e2511c8.html

Anthony Larkin, 30, a care assistant, was about to board a northbound 
Victoria line train from Stockwell at about 10am. "Suddenly a whole load 
of police officers appeared, some of them in uniform, some without 
uniform, with guns drawn," he said. "They were shouting: 'Get down, get 
down!'

"I froze. Then I heard two gunshots. People were screaming, shouting, 
crying. I saw the guy. He had a beard, he was thin, Asian-looking. He 
was trying to board a train."

Shortly after, Mr Larkin was reprimanded for talking to the media by 
plainclothes Special Branch officers who then led him away to take a 
statement.

IOW to coach him as to what to say. (Except it turned out he hadn't seen 
anything). It gives some indication of the pre-processing of witnesses 
which took place before the media has access to them.

Alex Flaherty wrote:

> You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
> (what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
> after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>
> Did anyone find out who he really was?


Plumber from Brixton, he still asserts:-
http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/world/Full_Story/did-sgTFiP99YqGzEsgDQQ5wn3uAIg.asp

Your theory about him is what?

SteveR wrote:

> Alex Flaherty  writes:
> 
>> You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
>> (what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
>> after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>>
>> Did anyone find out who he really was?
> 
> 
> I searched BT's directory:
> 
> People
> * M Whitby in Brixton:
>        ** nobody
> * M Whitby in London:
>        ** M (Maurice) Whitby - NW3 (just by Hampstead Heath)
>        ** M M Whitby-Grub    - SW16 (vaguely near Brixton)
> 
> Businesses
> Several, but the relevant looking one is:
> * M Whitby: 29 Perryn Road   - W3 (Ealing, not near Brixton)
> 
> What about Yell?
> 
> Business name: Whitby
> In: London
>        ** An optician's, a pub, a firm of consulting engineers, and a 
> firm of surveyors.  None in the right part of London.
> 
> OK, so we can't find a person by that name who lives in the right part 
> of London.  What about Google?  Can it tell us about water installation 
> engineers?
> 
> "Mark Whitby"
> Gives a large number of hits, including some on a Mark Whitby who 
> established a firm of consulting engineers, Whitby Bird & Partners. This 
> firm is in the civil engineering sector, but the firm's offices are in 
> Marylebone W1, across the river from Brixton.  I can't see a civil 
> engineer who has founded his own company being "from Brixton", really.
> 
> Here's the page:   http://www.setnet.org.uk/cgi-bin/wms.pl/199
> 
> Here's something odd:
> 
> "Water installation engineer"
> Gives no hits except the news reports about Mark Whitby...  None. Nobody 
> else uses this term.  Plumbers don't tart up their businesses by using 
> this term, civil engineers don't use it, nobody and nothing uses it - it 
> is only found in these reports.
> 
> So, no clue what a water installation engineer is.  Is it just a 
> fancy-pants word for a plumber?  Apparently not, because there are no 
> mentions of it, except the reports about this guy, to be found anywhere 
> on the Internet.
> 


He's changed his tune:
http://tinyurl.com/75arp

squashme@gmail.com wrote:

> Alex Flaherty wrote:
> 
>>You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
>>(what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
>>after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>>
>>Did anyone find out who he really was?
> 
> 
> Plumber from Brixton, he still asserts:-
> http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/world/Full_Story/did-sgTFiP99YqGzEsgDQQ5wn3uAIg.asp
> 
> Your theory about him is what?
> 


I was inside the carriage when the first five shots went off and then I 
heard another three as I was running up the stairs. I thought, theres 
a gun battle going on.

So they shot him 5 times then paused and shot him another 3 times?

Scott wrote:

> squashme@gmail.com wrote:
> > Alex Flaherty wrote:
> >
> >>You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
> >>(what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
> >>after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
> >>
> >>Did anyone find out who he really was?
> >
> >
> > Plumber from Brixton, he still asserts:-
> > http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/world/Full_Story/did-sgTFiP99YqGzEsgDQQ5wn3uAIg.asp
> >
> > Your theory about him is what?
> >
>
> "I was inside the carriage when the first five shots went off and then I
> heard another three as I was running up the stairs. I thought, 'there's
> a gun battle going on'."
>
> So they shot him 5 times then paused and shot him another 3 times?


So if he was a police plant, he would have a better story then?

In article , Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOOO!!!!
!@drzoidberg.co.uk> writes


>Alex Flaherty wrote:
>> You remember the guy, the "water installation engineer from Brixton"
>> (what's one of those anyway?) who was on virtually every new bulletin
>> after the murder of the Brazilian guy on the Tube?
>>
>> Did anyone find out who he really was?
>
>Well the conspiracy theorists would have you believe he was a police officer 
>giving a fake version of events.

>Personally I thought he was just a muppet who liked the sound of his own 
>voice a bit too much


Where's the difference? Both could probably be correct!
-- 
Mr X

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:59:25 +0100, Scott wrote:


> Shortly after, Mr Larkin was reprimanded for talking to the media by
> plainclothes Special Branch officers who then led him away to take a
> statement.


What business of plod is it who he talks to? I thought we had a modicum of
free speech here?

-- 
Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK