Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:55 +0100 (BST)
In article <6a9k74F36411mU2@mid.individual.net>, drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
John Watson) wrote:
> *From:* Dr John Watson <drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com>
> *Date:* Fri, 30 May 2008 07:12:52 +0100
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> Noticed at Thu, 29 May 2008 22:29:00 +0100: Claude informed us:
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> > In article <483d9e10$1@news.cadenc ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:55 +0100 (BST)
In article <6a9jttF36411mU1@mid.individual.net>, drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com (Dr
John Watson) wrote:
> *From:* Dr John Watson <drjohn@NOSPAM.hotpotmail.com>
> *Date:* Fri, 30 May 2008 07:07:57 +0100
>
> Noticed at Thu, 29 May 2008 22:29:00 +0100: Claude informed us:
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> > I have seen container loads of fak ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Thu, 29 May 2008 22:29 +0100 (BST)
In article <483d9e10$1@news.cadence.com>, pxhxz@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel)
wrote:
> But no-one is making or selling "black-market" cigerettes
Not true, there is a huge industry in counterfeit tobacco goods. ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Wed, 28 May 2008 16:56:01 +0100
On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:27:08 +0100, "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx>
wrote:
>> Ummm - prohibition robs the government of even *more* tax as obviously
>> no tax whatsoever is collected on sales of illegal drugs.
>Obviously.
>> So you are making an argument to end prohibition.
>No, I'm not. The social ills it ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:37:45 -0800
>> Evidence?
In article <KKadnSdYEp1_1KHV4p2dnAA@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>Why do you make claim after claim yet insist I provide a reference for
>everything I say? I can't be bothered digging out links for things that are
>commonly known to be true.
Except that many of the things you b ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:33:28 -0800
In article <a0fo34tuk7qvr6sfc8lfvq94i7ktk8t03f@4ax.com> cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk writes:
>So your point is just as valid wrt other drugs as it is with tobacco
>and booze. Once high quality commercially produced drugs are
>available, nobody will want to touch low quality home-made substitutes
>any more than they wo ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:28:02 -0800
>> And yet there is no evidence whatsoever for more than miniscule black
>> markets in fuel or alcohol ... and black markets in tobacco only in a
>> few locales where the taxes are well above average
In article <f9adnYcKpdp7pqHVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>There is a large black ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:20:34 -0800
In article <zfmdnUPfb8fAmqHVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>> But you will not see a significant amount of home-grown tobacco or
>> home-made booze on the black market, despite the fact that those
>> things are highly taxed and their production is both legal and
>> reasonably simple. ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:18:54 -0800
>> Tobacco is more addictive than heroin.
In article "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>It may be more addictive by some cunning manipulation of statistics
No, no cunning manipulation. Tobacco addicts around 80% of regular users,
heroin addicts around 10-15% of regular users.
And heroin addicts who are ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:14:34 -0800
In article <hsydna1Sq5ClUKbVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>> Under a legalization scenario, there wouldn't be "other/newer drugs that
>> are
>> still illegal". That's the point. The "other/newer drugs" would be
>> legal.
>> They might be regulated, but they would be legal to po ...
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