Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:33:28 -0800
In article <a0fo34tuk7qvr6sfc8lfvq94i7ktk8t03f@4ax.com> cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk writes:
>So your point is just as valid wrt other drugs as it is with tobacco
>and booze. Once high quality commercially produced drugs are
>available, nobody will want to touch low quality home-made substitutes
>any more than they wo ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:28:02 -0800
>> And yet there is no evidence whatsoever for more than miniscule black
>> markets in fuel or alcohol ... and black markets in tobacco only in a
>> few locales where the taxes are well above average
In article <f9adnYcKpdp7pqHVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>There is a large black ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:20:34 -0800
In article <zfmdnUPfb8fAmqHVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>> But you will not see a significant amount of home-grown tobacco or
>> home-made booze on the black market, despite the fact that those
>> things are highly taxed and their production is both legal and
>> reasonably simple. ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:18:54 -0800
>> Tobacco is more addictive than heroin.
In article "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>It may be more addictive by some cunning manipulation of statistics
No, no cunning manipulation. Tobacco addicts around 80% of regular users,
heroin addicts around 10-15% of regular users.
And heroin addicts who are ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
27 May 2008 11:14:34 -0800
In article <hsydna1Sq5ClUKbVnZ2dnUVZ8h2dnZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>> Under a legalization scenario, there wouldn't be "other/newer drugs that
>> are
>> still illegal". That's the point. The "other/newer drugs" would be
>> legal.
>> They might be regulated, but they would be legal to po ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Tue, 27 May 2008 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
On May 27, 3:59 am, "Aidy" <noem...@noemail.xxx> wrote:
> > Why? When a new car, fridge, light bulb, toothpaste etc, comes out the
> > manufactures don't try to sneak them onto the black market!
>
> On the contrary, fake good and low quality goods often make it onto the
> black market to avoid regulation.
"F ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Fri, 23 May 2008 10:47:58 -0700 (PDT)
On May 23, 3:44 am, "Aidy" <noem...@noemail.xxx> wrote:
> > How does it damage society? If that damage is due to the money going
> > into criminal hands, that's a powerful argument for legalizing
> > drugs ... just as the booze money going into criminal hands during
> > America's Prohibition was a powerful argum ...
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
Fri, 23 May 2008 10:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
On May 23, 3:40 am, "Aidy" <noem...@noemail.xxx> wrote:
> > The safety issue is that drugs are safer when legal and regulated.
>
> No, the safety issues I refer to are clinical trials etc.
Most if not all illegal drugs have been well studied.
> The g'ment can't
> just allow the public to ingest something
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
22 May 2008 13:37:23 -0800
In article <C9mdneSPUZCMM6jVnZ2dneKdnZzinZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy" <noemail@noemail.xxx> writes:
>The other thing people are conveniently forgetting here is that while drug
>taking is, on a certain level, a "victimless crime" the buying of drugs is
>not. It is the exchange of money that does the damage to society.
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Re: Drug Czar's plea to downgrade 'E'
22 May 2008 20:18:44 GMT
In article <RMadnerzENinLKjVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>,
Aidy <noemail@noemail.xxx> wrote:
>And the final argument against that is that most people only take drugs
>*because* they are illegal.
I find that suggestion incredible. Do you have a cite to back it up?
Francis ...
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